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Originally Posted by Dantenoc
Acording to this site: http://www.oldsubsplace.com/Sub%20Statistics.htm , 288 U.S. submarines made a total of 1,692 patrols during WWII, in which they sunk 5,053,491 tons of merchant shipping and 577,626 tons of enemy warships.
(5,053,491 + 577,626)/288 = 19,552.4896
That's to say, on average, every single U.S. sub that actively participated in the war effort gave the allies a return of about 19,552 enemy tons going down
On the german side we have a total of 863 U-boats on operational use (actively participating in the war effort), and quoting Dan's figure of 14,500,000 tons sunk by them, we get:
14,500,000 / 863 = 16,801.854
So, on average, every german U-boat that actively participated in the war effort gave the axis a return of about 16,802 enemy tons sent to the deep.
So allready the U.S. comes out on top, and we haven't yet taken into acount that U.S. involvement in war was shorter than Germany's, or the fact that these numbers still don't reflect the fact that Allied merchant shipping bounced back with vigor from their sinkings, while the Japanese had their fleet practicaly wiped out (which leads us to the very tempting conclusion that the U.S. could have sunk even more ships if there had been more ships to sink!)
P.S.: And I must stress the fact that I did make a misleading first post by mistake, and I thank you for your caring watchfulness  |
If US submarines had operated on the atlantic battle, against allies, they probably couldn't have made half the score of the german boats
Remember japanese were really far from beeing as efficient as allies in ASW war ...
Anyway US submarines were designed for a very different theatre, waaaay less stressy and dangerous than the Uboats one.
I didn't said japanese was bad at ASW or US bad as submarine builder during WWII, I said that the theatre was much bigger and the japanese ASW means far less important than the allies one.
To be complete, if german Uboats had operated in pacific, they also couldn't have made the US results ...
IMHO, german boats (especially the type IX) were a bit more versatile than US couterparts at this period.
but who cares about versatility at this time ?
At this time, a platform should have been made especially for the theatre where it will operate. That's why german and US subs are so differents.
But there is so much difference beetween older submarines and Type XXI ...
Beeing a XXI commander should had give you the real feeling of the power at this time.
If you know how to use the XXI advantages, you just couldn't be stopped, harrassing the convoy until you are out of torpedoes and evading deep when you finished your devastation.
If you are detected, you just have to pass under the convoy at 15 knts to be on the other side to complete the job.
This platform could have been the absolute nightmare of the allies if it was released earlier.
Not able to win the war, but able to make it longer.
Imagine the D day with 50 XXI around ...
sorry for 4 posts instead of one ...