SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - View Single Post

John Pancoast · 10-09-06, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumat83

The planes and their bullets are now very dangerous. Before NYGM, they was too weak but now they're too strong.

In my last mission, I lost 25 crews under only an attack, without bomb, only bullets

. It's excessive no ?

May be it's realistic. In this case, no problem

but, in reality (cf. Books like Das Boot ou admiral Wolves...), I think the Uboat was able to avoid many planes attacks. In this mod, it's impossible, everytime, the planes see the uboat, attack and often cause heavy damages.

At least, I think the crews should be able to see the planes at a greater distance, to have a chance to avoid them.

I love this mod, sincerely, but in this case, here, it's very disappointing

My idea is :
1- The planes are too strong
or
2- The crews detect planes too later

25 crew???

Well in NYGM if you see an aircraft you dive - QUICKLY!!

I have on watch at all times the following:

1 x Officer with watch skill
1 x PO with watch skill
1 x PO with 'no' skill
2 x '3 stripe' seamen

I've found I see things with sufficient warning to bail fairly safely. I suspect the real horror will come with medium bombers using radar at night.

Closest I've been to a surface contact at night before seeing it was 4500 (a DD no less - gave me a shock and a mild panic!). With the changes to the sensors, however, I altered course to present a narrow profile and it didn't spot me (seas were heavy and strong winds, plus I was travelling at 1/3 speed). This was great as it was pretty realistic - VERY rare for a U-boat to be detected by an escort before the U-boat detected it, before radar at least.

One reason I haven't bothered playing stock is due to the many 'unrealistic' happenings I've read in the forums. I suspect they might have given people bad habits, like trying to fight aircraft instead of diving ASAP......

So, I don't think aircraft are too strong (certainly not in my experience so far) BUT they WILL dump on you if you remain on the surface, as was historically the case. You're a SUBmarine - USE IT!!!

Iirc, wasn't a four man watch the standard in real life ?