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Old 09-07-06, 07:23 PM   #13
Onkel Neal
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Why do I talk. You still say Iraq is an open thing, and you still ignore that Afghanistan is a lost case, too. That you deny that Ameircan politics directly affect almost all other nations on the globe, too, just fits into a scheme - that of ignorance (Ignoranz), and never reflecting self-centrism.

The arrogance of empires.
Yes, and the impotence of former empires.

We have a saying here in the States, it's kinda dated now but still applicable i think:

"It ain't over until the fat lady sings".

As long as we have boots on the ground in those countries and my country doesn't elect some weakling in 08 who will cut and run, she ain't sung. FWIW I even still hold out hope for your country too Skybird. Call it an irrational belief in my mothers homeland but it's far better than your "woe is us the Muslims are taking over" brand of defeatism.
Well said. Better to fight and lose than to cringe in babbling fear. We all know one thing, we cannot talk terrorists into submission. The Afghanistan and Iraq wars are not slam dunks, and I would have handled it very differently if I were Pres, but at least we're doing something.

Blair. Not familiar with his economic policies but I get the feeling his leaving is like when the Brits dumped Churchill. Wasn't all peaches and cream after that, until Thatcher came along.
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