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Originally Posted by Redwine

Well... how to explain in bad english....

Do not confuse german warriors with nazis... too much of them fight to protect their women and childs not for the Fuerer.

The german submarine forces rise up respect and admiration, for the sacrifice and the troubles they must to overpass to defend their country.

Their courage rise up respect on many people.

Exactly what i was going to say, dont confuse the SS/NAZIs with the regular german army/airforce/navy. In fact as early as 1939 german army generals planned on assasinating hitler, however due to his victories he was to popular at the time. They tried later in 1944 and failed, a couple of the generals commited sucide, Rommel was among the ones who ploted and was basically forced to commit sucide to protect his family.

So no i dont think all germans who particpated in WW2, knew or particapted in the death camps ect. If they did it was proably just whispered rummors. Heck people living in towns/cities less then 5miles away say (dont know if they were telling the truth or not) that they never knew of the camps.

From Wikipedia
"The plot against Hitler


May 1944, Rommel (right) with his closest staff members: (L to R), his personal aide Captain Hellmuth Lang, his chief naval aide Admiral Friedrich Ruge, and his chief of staff General Hans Speidel, all of whom were heavily involved in the anti-Nazi conspiracy within the Wehrmacht.



A memorial at the site of Field Marshall Erwin Rommel's suicide outside of the town of Herrlingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany (west of Ulm).


On July 17, 1944 Rommel's staff car was strafed by an RCAF Spitfire (piloted by Charley Fox), and he was hospitalized with major head injuries. (However, Rommel always maintained that the aircraft had been American) In the meantime, after the failed July 20 Plot against Adolf Hitler a major crackdown was conducted throughout the Wehrmacht. As the investigation proceeded, numerous connections started appearing that tied Rommel with the conspiracy, in which many of his closest aides were deeply involved. At the same time, local Nazi party officials reported on Rommel's extensive and scornful criticism of Nazi leadership during the time he was hospitalized. Bormann was certain of Rommel's involvement, Goebbels was not.
The true extent of Rommel's knowledge of, or involvement with, the plot is still unclear. After the war, however, his wife maintained that Rommel had been against the plot as it was carried out. It has been stated that Rommel wanted to avoid giving future generations of Germans the perception that the war was lost because of backstabbing, the infamous Dolchstoßlegende, as it was commonly believed by some Germans following WWI. Instead, he favored a coup where Hitler would be taken alive and made to stand trial before the public.
Recent evidence however, seems to indicate that Rommel was aware of the July 20 plot and the intentions of Claus von Stauffenberg but was cautious to avoid participation not merely because of the chance of repeating the 'November Criminals' fable. He was all too aware of the crudity and poorly organised nature of the plot, and the slim chance of the Western Allies accepting a separate peace. He thus took an objective and realistic attitude towards the planned coup against Hitler and his cabinet, though for all his forbearance and cautious nature he still fell foul of Hitler's growing paranoia and petty hatred towards the Prussian officer caste. It was even reported that shortly after Rommel regained consciousness following his accident that he confided to his son in private "Stauffenberg botched his plans, but a front line officer would have finished Hitler off".
Because of Rommel's popularity with the German people, Hitler gave him an option to commit suicide with cyanide or face a humiliating sham trial before Roland Freisler's "People's Court" and the murder of his family and staff. Rommel ended his own life on October 14, 1944, and was buried with full military honours. After the war his diary was published as The Rommel Papers. He is the only member of the Third Reich establishment to have a museum dedicated to his person and his career. His grave can be found in Herrlingen, a short distance west of Ulm."