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Skybird · 02-12-25, 08:02 AM

Where have you that ^ from, Catfish?

Last year the eU demanded from MS that Recall must be made an installabe item of choice by the user, and that it must be an active opt-in, not opt-out, by the user. That was around April last year.

Microsoft reacted by delaying the rollout of Recall in Europe by a few months, then presented a new code for the whole W11 OS where Recall then was integral part of the file explorer, which before it was not. This new architecture then was their foul excuse to argue that they cannot make Recall a choice by the user since without Recall the file explorer would not work and hence the whole OS would not work. Quite underhanded move by them.

They then claimed that it cna be switche don or off and that would be an opt-in decision during installation or first launch of a new rig with preinstalled W11. That was a lie, too. Tech bloggers time and again - you can check yourself on youtube - have tested it, there is a way how users can check the working state of Recall via command line interface (!!), in other words Microsoft did its best to make Recall verification as difficult as possible and they hid Recall alltogether from the user. And - wonder oh wonder - these tests always showed that Recall is on all new installations - ACTIVE. The tecnically unknowing user who just uses his system for playing or business or home computing has zero chance to ever get aware of the issue - or its dangerous implications.

Dont be surpised that Microsoft is lying.

Recall is essential for them, and not that harmless as you think , Kai. Its a fundament of their long term business strategy and vision of creating a digital full world replicate of each and everything that feeds not several external, separated AIs , but just one single AI. Their top CEO has put it in very open words, that leave no space for interpretations. If they do not harvest all and every event and piece of data fro everywhere, all the time, always, they cannot do this.

Its madness, yes. Its dangerous to the max. Its hubris.

Digital assistants and now the general spreading of AI also serve this purpose.

You are free to believe their claims, of course. But I would call doing so naive.

https://www.youtube.com/@robbraxmantech/videos

Also note that they have changed anotherthing, against the user's interest, as so often. With having a Microsoft account being mandatory now to run W11 and with being online all the time being mandatory as well, also being engaged with Microsoft cloud service and all the abonements needed in a professional environment, Microsoft has now deleted the option to log out of any of these service - even if you are on a public on a foreign machine. In other words, no matter from which place and machine you access your account(s) and data, you will stay endlessly logged in on that machine, leaving you vulnerable to every other foreign user on that machine using your account and accessing your data. You cannot log out of your accounts from that machine. Think of that! And make sure you think deep and well.

My neck hair raises at the outlook of spending thousands of coins on a new machine that ist completely owned by Microsoft and is their licensed property and that spies on my all day long, in 5 second intervals, and phones home to mother and tells her what it has seen me doing on screen, , and where MS and hardware manufacturers conspire and implement hardware features that increasingly are meant to prevent using another OS on this hardware than W11, or using W11 without completely exposing yourself to the total surveilance regime of Microsoft. Its not your machine. And if you let this foreign sniffer tool in, its no longer your life. Tjhat is no exaggeration.

For MS, all depends on enforcing access to your most private of your private life. Its their future. And you can bet they will not let you off the hook, nor will they ever fully comply with EU regulations hindering them.

In other words, they have declared full unlimited war on the user, private or business, and they will accept nothing but your unconditional surrender. That they will sugarcoat all this, does not change anything.

Amongst our owners' group in the house I live inm there is one pensioneered former judge, and one still active business and company lawyer. Both say the situatioon with Recall must be of even legal concern for businesses and lawyers, because W11 violates the right to confidentiality between professional and client and the sensitive data that is exchanged between them and is subject to the duty of confidentiality is exposed to access by Microsoft, and gets collected by routine by Microsoft. This even makes a lawyer, journalist or doctor legally liable to prosecution. The lawyer has therefore changed the system in his law firm and thrown out everything from Microsoft. He is currently on Linux, but is not happy with it and wants to switch to Apple. That governments and the EU do niot bite harder against Microsoft is becasue a.) government agencies cna get sopecial verisons that have indeed no survuellance and sniffing software on board, b) business and public amdinstraiton have made themnslkeves absokutely depending on Microsoft compatability software, and c.) the EU wants total surveillance of citizens, too, like China.

Do watch the linked videos in my posts #16 and #19.

And since you plan to go W11, Kai: be mindful about drive encryption which also is mandatory now. If you lose the key, your data is lost.

Edit:
just one or two weeks ago, there was another nice move by MS. Their recent bigge ruodate was a amsscare for many user'S machines, it apparently was extrenely buggy and caused a lot of problems and showstoppers. Micorosft reaction was typicval MS: they stopped the option to delay updates, and enforced this known broken, crippling faulty updates on everybody, from just a few days later on: unreoaure,d unfixed, broken as it is.

02-12-25, 08:02 AM	#26
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,812 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Where have you that ^ from, Catfish? Last year the eU demanded from MS that Recall must be made an installabe item of choice by the user, and that it must be an active opt-in, not opt-out, by the user. That was around April last year. Microsoft reacted by delaying the rollout of Recall in Europe by a few months, then presented a new code for the whole W11 OS where Recall then was integral part of the file explorer, which before it was not. This new architecture then was their foul excuse to argue that they cannot make Recall a choice by the user since without Recall the file explorer would not work and hence the whole OS would not work. Quite underhanded move by them. They then claimed that it cna be switche don or off and that would be an opt-in decision during installation or first launch of a new rig with preinstalled W11. That was a lie, too. Tech bloggers time and again - you can check yourself on youtube - have tested it, there is a way how users can check the working state of Recall via command line interface (!!), in other words Microsoft did its best to make Recall verification as difficult as possible and they hid Recall alltogether from the user. And - wonder oh wonder - these tests always showed that Recall is on all new installations - ACTIVE. The tecnically unknowing user who just uses his system for playing or business or home computing has zero chance to ever get aware of the issue - or its dangerous implications. Dont be surpised that Microsoft is lying. Recall is essential for them, and not that harmless as you think , Kai. Its a fundament of their long term business strategy and vision of creating a digital full world replicate of each and everything that feeds not several external, separated AIs , but just one single AI. Their top CEO has put it in very open words, that leave no space for interpretations. If they do not harvest all and every event and piece of data fro everywhere, all the time, always, they cannot do this. Its madness, yes. Its dangerous to the max. Its hubris. Digital assistants and now the general spreading of AI also serve this purpose. You are free to believe their claims, of course. But I would call doing so naive. https://www.youtube.com/@robbraxmantech/videos Also note that they have changed anotherthing, against the user's interest, as so often. With having a Microsoft account being mandatory now to run W11 and with being online all the time being mandatory as well, also being engaged with Microsoft cloud service and all the abonements needed in a professional environment, Microsoft has now deleted the option to log out of any of these service - even if you are on a public on a foreign machine. In other words, no matter from which place and machine you access your account(s) and data, you will stay endlessly logged in on that machine, leaving you vulnerable to every other foreign user on that machine using your account and accessing your data. *You cannot log out of your accounts from that machine.* Think of that! And make sure you think deep and well. My neck hair raises at the outlook of spending thousands of coins on a new machine that ist completely owned by Microsoft and is their licensed property and that spies on my all day long, in 5 second intervals, and phones home to mother and tells her what it has seen me doing on screen, , and where MS and hardware manufacturers conspire and implement hardware features that increasingly are meant to prevent using another OS on this hardware than W11, or using W11 without completely exposing yourself to the total surveilance regime of Microsoft. Its not your machine. And if you let this foreign sniffer tool in, its no longer your life. Tjhat is no exaggeration. For MS, all depends on enforcing access to your most private of your private life. Its their future. And you can bet they will not let you off the hook, nor will they ever fully comply with EU regulations hindering them. In other words, they have declared full unlimited war on the user, private or business, and they will accept nothing but your unconditional surrender. That they will sugarcoat all this, does not change anything. Amongst our owners' group in the house I live inm there is one pensioneered former judge, and one still active business and company lawyer. Both say the situatioon with Recall must be of even legal concern for businesses and lawyers, because W11 violates the right to confidentiality between professional and client and the sensitive data that is exchanged between them and is subject to the duty of confidentiality is exposed to access by Microsoft, and gets collected by routine by Microsoft. This even makes a lawyer, journalist or doctor legally liable to prosecution. The lawyer has therefore changed the system in his law firm and thrown out everything from Microsoft. He is currently on Linux, but is not happy with it and wants to switch to Apple. That governments and the EU do niot bite harder against Microsoft is becasue a.) government agencies cna get sopecial verisons that have indeed no survuellance and sniffing software on board, b) business and public amdinstraiton have made themnslkeves absokutely depending on Microsoft compatability software, and c.) the EU wants total surveillance of citizens, too, like China. *Do watch the linked videos in my posts #16 and #19.* And since you plan to go W11, Kai: be mindful about drive encryption which also is mandatory now. If you lose the key, your data is lost. Edit: just one or two weeks ago, there was another nice move by MS. Their recent bigge ruodate was a amsscare for many user'S machines, it apparently was extrenely buggy and caused a lot of problems and showstoppers. Micorosft reaction was typicval MS: they stopped the option to delay updates, and enforced this known broken, crippling faulty updates on everybody, from just a few days later on: unreoaure,d unfixed, broken as it is. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.