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Originally Posted by mapuc
Did he fail !? Well it depends on who you ask. Some will say yes and others no.
Markus
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Originally Posted by u crank
It is a good question Markus. And apparently more people didn't think he failed and they voted him back into office.
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Well, I would say that not being able to muster enough votes to win reelection is an excellent indicator of the voter's dissatisfaction with Trump's performance in his first term; remember, Trump didn't win the popular vote to get in the Oval Office in the first place; Hillary beat him in the popular vote by 2,868,686 votes, so Trump, by no means, had any sort of 'mandate' for his first term, and, under his 'leadership', the GOP lost badly in the midterms;...
Then you move on to 2020 and Trump lose his bid for a second term to Biden, who beat him by a margin of a whopping 7,059,526 votes; it is obvious that Trump couldn't persuade enough of his former voters to keep him in office, a sure indicator of the dissatisfaction of Trump's first term and the voters' rejection of his Presidency; Trump, as usual, failed in another of his endeavors, just like all those con artist businesses he hustled over the decades...
Now you've got 2024 and Trump was running against a party that was in complete disarray, had many problem issues, had lost its incumbent candidate, who, by the way, torpedoed the DEM Party by turning in an abysmal performance in the debate; Trump, by all metrics, should have had a field day in the elections, but he couldn't even crack the 50% mark, and more voters actually voted for other candidates than those who voted for him; and Trump's 'margin of victory' was fairly anemic: just 2,284,967 votes, less than the margin Hillary beat him with in 2016, and only 1/3 of Biden's margin over Trump in 2020; there really is no statistical basis for anyone making a claim of a mandate, or, even more ludicrous and ridiculous, any sort of "vast majority"; Trump initially won office by gaming a system that is arcane and outdated, not by winning the popular vote; and he lost, badly, when he asked the voters to keep him in office; now he's back, not because he's the best (it all too obvious he's not really the brightest), but because circumstance worked in the favor of whoever the GOP was running; if Trump really was such a "great choice", why isn't that "greatness' reflected in the election results? He barely got by and, again, couldn't even get a majority of the votes; Trump was running on vapors and is now using up whatever vapors he had left...
Did he fail? Obviously he did because the voters looked at four years of his "leadership" and said "NO" emphatically; no amount of lipstick is gonna make that pig any prettier...
But, hey, what I really want is one of you Trumpettes out there to prove me wrong, with numbers to back you up, that anything I have posted about the obvious lackings of Trump is false; and, remember, I am asking for verifiable facts, not opeds or YT MAGA rubbish...
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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace
I think it's a multi tiered question. I think it was more that the Democrats wouldn't address the crime tied to unfettered people crossing the border. You know you have an Issue when you have Mexicans burning the American flag and carrying the Mexican flag in our streets. That is of course a crime here in the U.S. They hate our Country but are here Illegally for the handouts that are drying up. American voters have said enough is enough.
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As usual, CW, you have your "facts" wrong: burning the US Flag, in protest is not a US crime and the SCOTUS has ruled on the matter and affirms the 1st Amendment protections afforded to such protest; i an not a fan of falg burning, but it is not a crime...
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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace
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Throw in uncontrolled spending, fueling sky rocketing inflation. Then you have the question of who was running this Country for the last four years since it is now obvious that Biden couldn't tie his shoe laces without help.
This is a disaster for the Democrats and I think it will continue to be because they are too stupid to listen to the fact that the vast majority of Americans aren't interested in what they stand for. Trump promised to address these Issues and so far, he is making good on those promises. That is basically it.
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If you think the last four years under Biden were a mess with "uncontrolled spending, fueling sky rocketing inflation", just wait until Trump's whack-a-doodle economic policies take hold; this is one of the key reasons I really think the GOP is going to rue the day they bent over and grabbed their ankles before Trump come the mid-terms; already, the specter of food prices going further out of control, fuel prices rising, and the costs of common goods being affected by the shotgun approach to tariffs and inflation, is making for some grim times for the GOP in 2026...
,,,and, the voters, DEM or GOP are not to stupid too see whose had is on the wheel when the car careens off the road...
Please, also, inform us where you keep getting that "vast majority" you keep referring to...
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