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Skybird · 11-29-24, 06:42 PM

Before 2014, the Donbass region (=Donezk) was the most important (rank 1) industrial region amongst the over two dozen oblasts (provinces) in Ukraine, together with Luhansk oblast (ranked No. 5 in that list) contributing around one quarter to the total industrial and productive weight of Ukraine. Four of the top five oblasts in that list represent now occupied oblasts. Means: Ukraine looses its 4 most importan productive and industrial, heavyweight oblasts with a total of almost 40% of its industrial productivity.

In agricultural production Donbass ranked place 10 amongst these 27 oblasts. According to US agricultural surveys from 2020, the five occupied oblasts in total represent quite precisely one quarter of the national wheat production of Ukraine (Donbass alone 5%).

Donbass was before the war the oblast with the biggest group of the total national population (almost 2 million).

The five occupied oblasts also represent almost the total of Ukraine's coastal access to the sea.

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I leave it to history unfolding to teach you a lesson about what difference it will make once Pokrovsk has been breached. The city is a bastion of the third and last defence line, the first two already have gone, and behind the city the Russians currently meet just empty land. THERE ARE NO MORE PREPARED DEFENCES behind Pokrovsk, they say. For ~ 150km. If you think that means nothing and means no difference and if you still think the Russian are bogged down while indeed they have a run and accelerating their advance since many weeks now, then I cannot help you. We see history in the making - and it will lecture you. Nothing gets won by glossing over unwanted realities.

11-29-24, 06:42 PM	#5428
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,683 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Before 2014, the Donbass region (=Donezk) was the most important (rank 1) industrial region amongst the over two dozen oblasts (provinces) in Ukraine, together with Luhansk oblast (ranked No. 5 in that list) contributing around one quarter to the total industrial and productive weight of Ukraine. Four of the top five oblasts in that list represent now occupied oblasts. Means: Ukraine looses its 4 most importan productive and industrial, heavyweight oblasts with a total of almost 40% of its industrial productivity. In agricultural production Donbass ranked place 10 amongst these 27 oblasts. According to US agricultural surveys from 2020, the five occupied oblasts in total represent quite precisely one quarter of the national wheat production of Ukraine (Donbass alone 5%). Donbass was before the war the oblast with the biggest group of the total national population (almost 2 million). The five occupied oblasts also represent almost the total of Ukraine's coastal access to the sea. ------ I leave it to history unfolding to teach you a lesson about what difference it will make once Pokrovsk has been breached. The city is a bastion of the third and last defence line, the first two already have gone, and behind the city the Russians currently meet just empty land. THERE ARE NO MORE PREPARED DEFENCES behind Pokrovsk, they say. For ~ 150km. If you think that means nothing and means no difference and if you still think the Russian are bogged down while indeed they have a run and accelerating their advance since many weeks now, then I cannot help you. We see history in the making - and it will lecture you. Nothing gets won by glossing over unwanted realities. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.