[Skybird]

What you want is one thing, Drebbel, and your good intentions honour you. But what you (they) can achieve - is something different.

You said: civil war will be a result (future), I and apparently more and more troops there as well say: civil war is already there. I have said that already over a year ago.

You said: preventing another dictator, I say: the Iranian-made mullacracy is coming and the securityy apparatus since over a year is time and again being reported to use the same ammount of violance and torture as it was under Saddam (not to mention that it is massively infiltrated). While we talk about it, Iranian units and artillery has actively engaged Kurdish positions in the Northwest - since MONTHS. No one int he West takes a note of that.

You said: preventing weapons buildup, I say: the Shias will turn Iraq into another platform for terrorism against the West (which was not present under Saddam, Saddam had no links to 9/11).

You think there still is a solution to the messup. I say since three years that the war cannot acchieve what it was intended for and will backfire massively and mess things up, and finally one day America will get sick and tired of it and sneak out the backdoor with having achieved exactly the opposite of all what they wanted in 2003.

This war never should have been started in 2003, or better, the war in 1991 should have been brought to a natural end back then. since 1991, Iraq already was a totally lost case for America, the West.

Again, I recognize your good intentions, Drebbel, but good intentions alone is just not good enough. You need the means, the right timing, and the right place - all of which has never been available during this third gulf war. It was a folly from the very beginning, and it had nothing to do with 9/11.

For all these reasons, that I consider to have been forseeable in 2003 and have foreseen myself, I have always been completely against the war 2003. after the field battle was over in 2003, I demanded that now that the mess had been done, one should try to make the best of it and secure that place - send freaking more troops, multiply the reconstruction efforts. Again, failure follwed that demand. And now I say the troops have no cause anymore, so get them out and save their lifes, before it is wasted for nothing. And again - for innerpolitical reasons (upcoming elections and not wanting to be seen as Republican weaklings), those who started this folly do not listen.

Every GI being killed in Iraq today, dies not for Iraq or a democratic future of it. He dies for Republican party interests, and get's sacrificed like a pawn in chess, by his own leaders. It doesn't matter if I am American or not - this makes me sick and furious about those responsible for it.