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Originally Posted by Julhelm
Current Russia is not the USSR of the Cold War. Certainly Soviet-origin air defence systems have always been effective, except in conflicts like Allied Force where the US was able to gain air superiority and perform DEAD uncontested. They are certainly effective in the current conflict, to the point where neither side can reliably conduct air ops near the frontline.
People take one event like the Moskva sinking and extrapolate to the extreme from that. We could do the same with the Sheffield, the Coventry or the Stark, but noone ever seems to make the argument western equipment is useless because these ships were caught unaware.
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I don't have as much contact with the people in the industry/field now but I was told that thing have not improve much.
Back in the days of the cold war when my company actually does Mil-spec contracts. We worked for Gould Inc which build the Mk48, FMC which build the M2 and other projects some of those were so highly classified that we were not even given the program name at the time (one of those which turns out to be parts for the B2). What I can tell you is that every piece of equipment the US and allies have acquired since the fall of the USSR have underperform to the published spec. This does not even cover the poor workmanship on the equipment acquire form East Germany and other former Soviet states. We're talking about upward of 20% failure rates. Examples of which includes the 125mm APFSDS tank main gun round where 30% of the Tungsten Penetrators shattered upon impact and things like all the missile launch failure video you see on the web is more the norm than the exception.