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Old 07-17-24, 08:57 PM   #18
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I did not think that you are, but fact remains it is predominantly the right which condemns the EU. And while there are reasons that the EU does not everything right for whatever reason (after all they are elected and may err, other than dictators lol), it is the poliitcal right wing that constantly tries to blame all on the EU. From the weather to rising prices to whatnot. For obvious reasons - they are not for freedom, indepencence or liberty of thought, for easiness of trade, or to make it short for all the EU represents.

Regarding health and "poisoning", Vitamine D is not a "vitamine" (the definition of this stuff is debatable anyway) but a hormone.

"[...] Inadequate levels of vitamin D3 can therefore affect many different systems in the body. The skin's ability to synthesize it decreases with age, which is why people over 65 are a risk group for a mild vitamin D3 deficiency. Symptoms include fatigue, slowed thinking, depression, muscle weakness and cramps, pain in the knees and back, sleep disorders, skin problems, increased susceptibility to infections and bacterial infections. In adults, painful bone softening, osteomalacia, can occur, while a deficiency in children in combination with a calcium deficiency leads to rickets.

If a deficiency is detected, vitamin D3 can be substituted with tablets. However, as everywhere else, care must be taken to avoid overdosing, as this can also be harmful. Animal experiments have shown that a chronic excess of vitamin D3 leads to premature ageing. Other possible consequences include cancer, curvature of the spine, skin ageing, damage to the small intestine, testosterone deficiency and impotence.
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https://mic-berlin.de/vitmain-d-ist-kein-vitamin/

So while "vitamine D" (it is not a "vitamine" but a neurotransmitter) is of course 'good' and useful I would not describe it as a "Wunderwaffe" against all the bad in this world, and especially not for everyone.
Yes, vitamine D3 is a steroid hormone. The skin looses the ability to make it from UV-B radiation with aging, people at 60 may have lost 75% of that capability already. Also, UV-index must be above 3, means: 4 or higher, for the mechanism to make vitamin D springing to life. Sunlight also is important for infrared radiation, because IR stimulates the building of interferon in the mitochondria of cells. The skin will make, under correct UVB-conditions, 20,000 IU of vitamine D per day, when reaching that level, it does not suddenly stop, but dratsically lowers the further production rate and increases the cnsumption rate of vitamin D reserves already existing. Therefore I doubt you cna have a benefit form consuming more than 20,000 IU of vitamine D, but then the body obviously is perfectly fit to handle at least this ammount of vitamine D per day. BTW, vitamin-D also gets build as a natural sun beam protection. No joke.

The risks of vitamine D overdosing get systematically dramatized and exaggerated to keep people in fear of these bad wicked supplements and at best have them not taking any. They should better buy heavy drugs once they got successfully ill, thats safer.

A study from Turkey showed that mistakenly overdosing the dose for several hundred babies in hospitals due to an erratically produced charge of vitamin D that then was distrubuted to dozens of hospitals, had no lasting consequences, and saw the calcidiol in serum levels going back to normal within days. What does overdosing mean in this case? Well: the babies got 4000 (four thousand) times the dose they should get. Factor 4000. You read that right.



Some people with certain health conditions must eb given severla hunbdred thoszhand IEs per day, else they do not even score a minimal effect from it.


Do not exceed 150,000 IUs for a bolus dose without medical advice, and do not exceed 40,000 IE per day frequently and for many months, take a solid ammount of Magnesium (not Magnesium oxide, however) and take plenty of K2, you are safe, periodid. Dont let yourself getting talked dizzy by doctors and lobbyists who want to scareminger you. They want you sick. Healthy people do not become Big Pharma'S and Big Food's loyal customers.

I take 20,000 IE of vitamine D in the 7 dark months of the year, and 10-15 thousand in the summer months. Since almost 5 years now.

Just today I saw a new video on YT, some big name scientist has done a soooper-doooper study showing that showed that sugar and plant seed oils are a very, very healthy and work best for your health if consummed together, and aplenty. Still any questions on the state of things and where they want to push us??


If you want it back on white, do bloodwork. Either a calcidiol in serum test that hopefully gives you a result of minimum 60 ngr/ml, but you want it closer to the hundred, believe it. Even levels of 150 and much higher I would no longer worry about if a calcium blood test shows no elevated levels. Whether its needed or beneficial to oush calcidiol levels this way, is somehtign difefrentm I only say even 100-150 is not dangerous in itself. You could also do a calcium test alone, thats much cheaper than a calcidiol test. If there is no problem with your calcium in blood, stop worrying for your vitamin D level being too high. If your doc tells you you do not need more than 60, or that you should drop it when you are closer to 80 or even 100 or that it is not beneficial - flee immediately an find a better qualified doctor.



High calcium can be one of several indicators for osteoporosis which is becoming a desease of the younger ones now, too. you can suffer from that even when you take much vitamin D, because vitmine D is not directly involved in bringing calcium into bone and teeth and keep it there. Vitamine D and A allow forming of osteocalcine and matrix GLA protein, which do these jobs of transportation - but only if they got activated, hydroxilated by vitamin K2. like you must turn the key to launch the car engine. No key - no drive. In this case: start consuming very high doses of vitamine K2. Several thousand mcgr per day!! Vitamine D alone does not do the trick against osteoporosis. You must cure your K2 deficiency.


And thats practically all one needs to know about the "big" risk of overdosing vitamine D, that is bull. Kidney failure, cancer, early death - forget it. Scaremongering. D3 together with K2, Mg (not as oxide), and then lean back.
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