[Skybird]

Certainly not for the reason you mention.

I could give endless details, but in fact I just would repeat myself. I have written and mentioned all I could say many times in this thread. Read it backwards, from "now " to "back then", I now know more than KI did 3 years ago, maybe I alered some info, details, for example I had to correct my initial post on artifical sweeteners, and also have risen my dose for vitamin D several times. Take my newer comments before the older.

I assume by vitamine pill you mean a mutli vitmiane poill, Consider to take nutrients in individual preparations. A solid fail-safe minimum basis would include vitamine B complex, C liposomale), D3, K2, Zinc, Magnesium, Selenium, Iodine, Omega 3.

Avoid plant seed oils, fructose, glucose, margarine, transfats, cereals, fruits, and at least limit veggies. Keep carbs low. No soft drinks. No unfermented milk. No bread, if you can avoid it.

Eggs are fantastic, good also is butter, gee, bacon, cheese, fatty meat, fatty fish, cheese, cream.

Saturated fat does not make people fat or ill. Carbohydrates do. Push the sliders in your favour, accoridng to myour choice and motivation. The more positive slider movement,s the better for you.

Our modenr diet rukles are just aroudn a hunbdred yera sold, and sicne aorudn a hundred years civilizaitonal deseases started to become pandemic. Before, people ate like I mentioned, and they were much healthier, and lean.

Our modern diet rules are WRONG. The doctors tell us lies - and Kelloggs and Coca Cola anyway.

Dont be afraid of salt or cholesterol, saturated fats and animal fats.

Be afraid of statins and refined sugar, HFCS and oat drinks, soy and nutrient deficient veganism and vegetarianism.

We do not need carbs. Period. The little glucose the body indeed needs - is produced by the liver, production-on-demand.

Overdosing protein is theoretically possible, but practically almost never happans as long as you are not a bodybuilder eating white powders for silly reasons.

Fats are essential, we need them, we burn them, we live by them.

If we eat only plants, we stay deficitary, and do not get all we essentially need for survival. Supplementation is mandatory if you want to live. 17 out of 20 vegans even then cannot avoid getting seriously sick to a degree that they must give up.

Meat does provide us with everything we need. Not always at opötimal levels, thogh, I suspect, but: its all there. Suzpoplenetian is not mandatory, but optional.

How can they call a vegan diet that leaves us with the mandatory need to supplement - a "healthy, species-adequate diet"...? Obviously it cannot be that, else we would not need to supplement not only for optimizing our statusk but for merely surviving. Meat, fish, aniaml products do give us all we need. It is our species-adequate, natural diet. AND WE ARE FULLY ADAPTED TO IT.

We are not adapted to eat grains (ATI sensitivity: affects every living human on Earth), veggies (deficitary, and gives us toxines to which we react with deseases, cancer and allergies), fruits (more toxines, and an overdose of fructose). And it shows! Insuline resistence drives obesity drives vulnerability for the full broadside of civilizational deseases. Follow the official diet guidelines by the government authorities. I guarantee you its only a question of time until most of you get ill from it. These guideline smean it well, but not wiht you. They mean it well with the cereals industry, Big Pharma, the agriculture lobby owning the big monocultures, the sugar lobby...

Stop complying. Claim back your responsibility for yourself. That is moral behaviour. Only sheep and cattle walk on all four.