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Originally Posted by Gerald
Good read. I consider myself to get into that to 100 percent. Did you take vitamin supplement as before .
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Not as before, I leave some out now, mainly plant-based supplements I took to help with digestive processes and fat metabolism (fatty liver ope ning issues).
The logic behind ongoing supplementation is that
a.) we are today exposed to toxines that centuries ago did not exist in our food and environment (at least not in these modern concentrations), and did not hack away at our health and genes, and
b.) even grass-fed animals would eat grass growing on our exploited soils and therefore they are probably lacking the ammounts of nutrients that in previous times they may have had, and therefore this decline may be reflected in the metabolism of the animals as well, and their fat quality. Not to mention that in the West most cattle is fed with grain, corn, and soy dirt. Which all is not species-adequate food for them. Grass is. Corn and soy is not. And the difference shows in the fatty acid quality and balance.Feed them crap, and see the omega 6 levels rising steeply and the omega.3 levels declining.
Of the relevance of the latter argument of mine I am not absolutely sure, of the first I am. I mean the fatty acid things is real, but to what degree it is true and affects our health I am not certain about, its about the total ammounts of omega 6 and 3, and this question is being debated.However, even grain fed beef is healthy, but you may want to supplemrnt Omega 3. Dr. Berry and Dr. Chaffee do somewhat disagree on other supplementations and say carnivores need less vitamins in general and must not supplement, but I go with these two arguments I made, especially the first one. How toxines can affect metabolic cycles of nutrients I learned with the iodine metabolism which can heavily suffer from intoxication with other halogenes, blocking iodine from docking to cells or getting inside cells, getting transported in the body. Also, a third reason is that we know from trials and studies as well as anecdotes, since decades, that certain vitamins , namely C and D, have almost miraculous powers if you take them in
real heavy doses that to recommend the pharmaceutical money makers would prefer to throw you into prison for. This is the reason why in the 80s there was a short period why in the US the public selling of vitamine C was prohibited. It threatened the profits of the industry. Public pressure reversed that in parts but I think vitamin C still can be had only in ridiculously low doses so that it is difficult if not impossible to get it in therapeutically useful doses. At least it was like that for some time after the prohibition ended. And until today many hospitals' adminstrations have prohibited it in most ERs to be held ready for infusions! Thats is not a scandal, that is a cynical crime in my book. Health concerns have absolutely nothing to do with it! THERE IS NO MONEY IN VITAMIN C ...!!! That is the reason they suppress vitamin C. Its also a lie that there are no studies and no academical papers on it. If you use Pub Med, you will see - I last counted late summer, early autumn - that there are
89,000 entries on vitamin C, reaching back to the early 40s! - I take 3x or even 4x 1000mg liposomale vitamin C, which has many advantages over normal vitamine c powder - that dose of 3000 mg liposomale vitamin C equals 8000-12000 of normal vitamine C (and stays
much longer in the blood, and avoids all the digestive problems).
So, to finally nail your question, I now take vitamin A (5,000 IU), all vitamin Bs (various solid doses), liposomale Vitamin C (4x 1,000 mg), Vitamine D (20,000 IU), gamma and delta Tocotrienole (vitamin Es these are), vitamine K2 (1,000 mcgr), boron (12mg, aims at the bones, many do not have it on their radar), zinc (25-50 mgr), magnesium (3x 650 mgr, a third of that only bio-available, plus so-called magnesium-oil on the legs' skin, which is magnesium-salt dissolved in water, this way I avoid the digestive system being too irritated by all that magnesium) , selenium (300 mcgr), iodine (12 mg , in the form of Lugol), ubiquinol (400 mg, not to mistake with ubiquinon), 15ml fish oil that gives me 5.2 gr of omega 3 (EPA, DHA, DPA), plenty of salt (!). Over the winter season with people all around sneezing in my neck, I also take NAC and quercetine. - I havent had a flu or cold since several years. Before, all my life, i had them 6-8 times a year! I also phased out my blood pressure drugs which I took for almost 15 years. I do not need them anymore!
I eat no more veggies, no fruits, almost never grain-based products like bread, noodles, pizza dough. I love pizza and bread, its a loss. The rest is not.
Note carnivore diet is not only good due to what it gives you (all you need, essntiually), but also due to what it prevents you to eat, namely plant toxines and carbohydrates and plant seed oils.
I suffered for 25 years from a mysterious nervous desease that never got correctly diagnosed, and meant coming and going phases of pain of the likes as if you had hot water in your veins and arteries, or heating wires in your limbs. Really, not nice. They told me I would probably die early due to neurological degeneration, and I believed it for many years, but they had no clue what it was, and played guessing games: All that - is gone. GONE. I had pains for many years of my life, serious pains. Since 3-4 years no more. Since I started all this.
Over the corona years I became a much healthier man! LOL - Oh the irony.
Its the inner doctor that heals. Our bodies have the library of functions that we summarise under the title "immune system", to deal with germs and infections and intoxications, since millenia. The ancient Greek healers said: "Thy food shall be thy medicine".
I know now what made me so miserable: too many calories, too few nutrients. I was severely malnourished. Keep crap out, at least limit it strictly. Get good stuff in that is adequate food for our species. We are carnivores, and we can show that biochemically, evolutionary-biologically, metabolically, anatomically, anthropologically. We may show the behaviour of opportunistic omnivores, but we are by physical nature and essence and we remain to be carnivores, since at least 2 million years, probably twice as long if not longer. With the beginning of farming, settling down and eating grain and vegetables, the physical degeneration of our bodies began, we lost hbeioght, strength, physis, endurance, immunology, and our jaw bones shrunk. The next time you see teenagers with braces, you might think about all this. And maybe get the classical book by Weston Price:
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.