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Old 12-04-23, 06:56 AM   #1875
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Originally Posted by mapuc View Post
If Ukraine lose the war, you could say they lost it in the west and not on the battlefield.
I would say they got actively prevented from winning it.


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I sincerely hope the amount of supply from the west will increase next year.
Where is the fundamental increase in production capacity that is precondition for that? Or do you think a factory producing Fuchs light APCs from second half 2024 on will make a difference? Of 1 million artillery rounds the EU promised Kyiv by the end of this year, not more than one third - at best - actually has been delivered . And 1 million shells was a low number considering the speed by which they get consumed in this war.

The precondition for suporting, is priouction. And production does not get significantly raised in Europe.


Denial of war reality.
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