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Originally Posted by Skybird
I am not impressed at all by that tank crew'S stunt.
Either they had no other choice due to irresponsible commands given to them by their uncaring superiors.
Or they pulled this stunt voluntarily, then I would say they are maximum unexperienced, maybe panicked.
Looks like a naive SBP player on his first go with the sim who had never played a tank sim before.
Stupid. Maybe this is why we are so hesitent to give them more equipment.
And where the heck was their support? Did they want to win the war alone? Artillery? Mortars? Infantry? Drones? Anything...?
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The tank losses are low in comparison to Russian tank loses and for an offensive (For reference, Oryx says Russia has lost more than 12004 vehicles since its all-out war began, including 2290 tanks Ukraine - 4375 vehicle Tanks 642). It’s unreasonable to expect the Ukrainian military to replicate the US victory in Desert Storm. Though brave and resourceful, Ukraine’s army is hastily transitioning from a Soviet-style to a Western-style way of war. And it’s doing this while attempting to penetrate multiple defensive lines manned by a foe superior in the quantity of manpower, armor, artillery, and airpower. This looks exactly what might happen to troops using unfamiliar equipment and tactics.
It needs to master its new Western equipment, and that means an expensive learning curve. A few destroyed equipment can be expected from an offensive like this, the issue isn’t simply counting losses. Contributing to the problem is a strange perception that Western armor is somehow invulnerable. In fact, Abrams tanks were destroyed in Desert Storm, as were Leopard 2s in Syria. For the most part, this can be blamed on poor tactics or even friendly fire (the same also be said of Russian tank losses in Ukraine).
Ukraine NATO Tanks: Approximately 595 Delivered - 74 Visually Confirmed Lost
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/1...inst-nato.html