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Skybird · 08-30-23, 10:09 AM

This is a special day - I have something positive to say

It seems confirmed that Ukraine has reached - and breached - the third main defence line. In past weeks there were at least twice reports that claimed that they had reached the main defence line, and the news in the folliwing days was not repeated and just collapsed. But this time it seems to be true.

[Tagesspiegel] According to consistent reports on X (formerly Twitter), Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian "Surovikin Line" for the first time. The fortification stretches along the entire front and is the third and most heavily fortified Russian defensive line.

Near the village of Verbove, Ukrainian troops are reported to have already overcome the first tank barriers of the line and reached the foothills of the village.

The village is located a few kilometers southeast of Robotyne, whose capture Kiev announced on Monday after days of heavy fighting.

Various military experts cite geolocated video footage as evidence of the local breakthrough. So far, these cannot be independently verified.

In any case, the breakthrough through the Russian lines at Robotyne and beyond is likely to be the most extensive of the counteroffensive to date. It is likely to be carried primarily by Ukraine's 82nd Air Assault Brigade. It is considered an elite unit and is equipped with, among other things, British Challenger main battle tanks and German Marder vehicles.

Over the weekend, however, there were already reports that Russia, for its part, had moved elite troops into the region to stabilize the front line.

The Surovikin Line was laid out over a period of months while Russia was preparing for the Ukrainian counteroffensive. It is named after the former Russian commander-in-chief, who has since been deposed and fallen from grace.

It stretches for more than 800 kilometers along the entire front. It is fortified with minefields, tank trenches and so-called dragon's teeth, which serve as tank barriers.

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There are further extensive defences protecting Tokmak and Melitopol, however, its not as if now they march through. Also, the Russians will try to counterattack and seal the breach ASAP. But hope is sown that this will fail.

Finally - this could be what we have waited and hoped (or not dared to hope) for!

What counts now most is to keep spreading chaos and to keep them running. And thats not a no-brainer.

08-30-23, 10:09 AM	#711
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,745 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	This is a special day - I have something positive to say It seems confirmed that Ukraine has reached - and breached - the third main defence line. In past weeks there were at least twice reports that claimed that they had reached the main defence line, and the news in the folliwing days was not repeated and just collapsed. But this time it seems to be true. [Tagesspiegel] According to consistent reports on X (formerly Twitter), Ukrainian troops have reached the Russian "Surovikin Line" for the first time. The fortification stretches along the entire front and is the third and most heavily fortified Russian defensive line. Near the village of Verbove, Ukrainian troops are reported to have already overcome the first tank barriers of the line and reached the foothills of the village. The village is located a few kilometers southeast of Robotyne, whose capture Kiev announced on Monday after days of heavy fighting. Various military experts cite geolocated video footage as evidence of the local breakthrough. So far, these cannot be independently verified. In any case, the breakthrough through the Russian lines at Robotyne and beyond is likely to be the most extensive of the counteroffensive to date. It is likely to be carried primarily by Ukraine's 82nd Air Assault Brigade. It is considered an elite unit and is equipped with, among other things, British Challenger main battle tanks and German Marder vehicles. Over the weekend, however, there were already reports that Russia, for its part, had moved elite troops into the region to stabilize the front line. The Surovikin Line was laid out over a period of months while Russia was preparing for the Ukrainian counteroffensive. It is named after the former Russian commander-in-chief, who has since been deposed and fallen from grace. It stretches for more than 800 kilometers along the entire front. It is fortified with minefields, tank trenches and so-called dragon's teeth, which serve as tank barriers. ----------- There are further extensive defences protecting Tokmak and Melitopol, however, its not as if now they march through. Also, the Russians will try to counterattack and seal the breach ASAP. But hope is sown that this will fail. Finally - this could be what we have waited and hoped (or not dared to hope) for! What counts now most is to keep spreading chaos and to keep them running. And thats not a no-brainer. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.