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Originally Posted by mjv96
Having a bit of a problem with the listed ship keel depths and my torps running under ships regardless of the depth I have them set to or the type of contact used. I took shots at 2 tankers sitting in a harbor, they were clear shots with nothing in the way of the torps. Regardless of settings, my torps always went under the ships. One ship had a draft depth listed as 9ft and the other 15ft. Even setting them to run at 5 ft, the torps just go straight under the ships (both). Any ideas?
I'm running the following mods (wish I could attach a pic as I don't use website storage for pics): Trigger Maru Overhaul 2.5 Update BH V2.0; Nav Map Make-Over TMO Update 2.0; NMMO Patch TMO Update V2.0; EAX_Clang_Splash_Dud for TMO Update; AAtoDeckguns+Radio; DecoysTMO; EAX_splash_clang_TMOV2.0; GatoLadder3; Radio Messages TMO Update 2.0; Captain Midnights MORE CBS NEWS! MOD v1.2; AlliedShipsTMO; ShipsforTMO (and that is also their load order).
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When I created the mod, one thing I set out to do was to simulate historical accuracy, as much as possible, the torpedo issues Us submarines suffered in the war, with the 1941-Fall 1943 being the "prime time" for these issues but some such as circle runners (depending on model of torpedo) a persistent threat during the entire war. I believe I went into detail in the README but I'll give a abbreviated version.
With our knowledge of history, players could "game" the system but simply always setting their torpedoes shallow and especially with magnetic exploders, could still get an absurd amount of tonnage in 1941-Fall 1943. Real life skippers did start setting their torpedoes to shallow depths once tests were conducted and results went through the bureaucracy, but
the torpedoes would still often run too deep when set shallow with an AVERAGE run of 10-12 feet deeper, but may ran far deeper or may run properly. Best strategy is to set them shallow as possible and hope lol, sadly what real life skippers had to do once realized there was a problem.
Thus, I made it where the torpedoes will run deeper, especially until the issue was corrected. Without looking it up (I have not worked on SH 4 in a while, been busy) I believe in Spring/Early summer 1943 is when the issue was mostly resolved, with captains first told by command (outside of telling one another prior) about depth issues following tests in late 1942.
In addition to running deep...the magnetic exploders are far more unreliable in the TMO BH than they were in stock or original TMO etc in order to mirror history and prevent unrealistic tonnage. Their reliability was somewhat lazily made the by SH 4 devs to be related to wave height/sea state in black and white manner, when it was a bit more complicated. Sea state plays a smaller role in the mod, it has a random chance of exploding and I found it simulated
the performance in a more realistic manner.
Duds are also more prevalent. I adjusted the impact angles/dud chances to more historically accurate performance.
Circle run chances were slightly increased.
The MK 18 from introduction in June 1943-December 1943, simulates the initial problems MK 18 had with depth control issues and were prone circle runs. They did not have exploder problems as MK 14, as it used the MK 8 exploder, with no magnetic features.
The MK 10 also suffered from some depth control issues, but not as serious as the MK 14 or MK 18.
All of the issues combined serve to simulate the difficulty early to mid war skippers and crews faced...putting themselves in danger, firing torpedoes accurately but them often failing due to inherent design flaws and leading to not sinking nearly as many ships as would have. Or firing 24 torpedoes and coming home with one ship down, due to faulty torpedoes. Can also simulate the heartbreak of having a once in lifetime target like perfect setup on a carrier or battleship at sea, firing torpedoes "dead on" accurate , in a "cant miss" solution then...all 6 torpedoes or 5 out of six etc fail. For me, this brings a new level to the sim.