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Originally Posted by scandium
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Originally Posted by STEED
In all wars mistakes are made and yes it's a tragedy but errors are made there is no such thing as a perfect war, accidents are going to happen live with it, stop going on like it's the greatest crime ever committed in today's world.
PS. The media really love whipping these sorts of events up and blowing them out of all proportion, this has been going on in all conflicts over the years.
PPS. No I am not having ago at anyone. 
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There are mistakes, and then there is a clear pattern of callous, reckless, and willful disregard for civilian casualties - be they Lebanese, Canadian, or UN Observers (who were shelled 14 times, then bombed, and then the rescue team was shelled as well.
Now to me I'm reading everything I can find on events over there and I'm leaning strongly toward the later.
If a terrorist breaks into a school filled with children and holds them hostage, and the government find his demands unacceptable, they have a number of ways to proceed. If they chose to send in, without negotiating at all, a SWAT team knowing there will be casualties and several school children are killed then that is a mistake. A tragic, horrible mistake. But if instead they decide to drop a 500 lb. bomb onto the school, destroying the school and half the people in it to kill the terrorist and end the crisis ... well, that is not a mere "mistake". That is inhuman. It is an atrocity. It is unacceptable, and you do not dismiss it or try and rationalize it because it cannot be rationalized.
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A military observation post is no school, but a military installation, no matter if painted green, or white (something the UN maybe does not understand, judging be the many failures of their military interventions). And a school that is used by the enemy to open fire, to store ammunition, to fire rockets, and to coordinate his forces, is turned into a target - by the enemy. the bombing and 14 times shelling of that post very likely is all one and the same incident. And one thing, Scandium: there was Israeli intention of negotiating, and self-restriction - SINCE MANY YEARS. They made sacrifices, they left territories. but whatever they did, their enemies just took it up and used it to start firing rockets at them as soon as possible, from closer distances. you give it a wrong spin when indicating that there have not been negotiations, and that there had been alternatives. that simply is wrong. All that is not possible with Hezbollah which is founded and defined be the very war for the destruction of Israel. This fight is forced upon Israel, it cannot avoid it, no matter what you fantasize what "reasonable" diplomacy could have acchieved if only given EVEN MORE time. Israel pays with blood for that kind of fantasy, since years. The simple truth is you cannot force people to follow peaceful and reasonable rules - instead a single bad player can force all players to become violant and use force in self-defense when only just one player decides that he does not want to accept the ruling of peace and reason. You can enforce war and violence. you cannot enforce peace. Tragic, but true.