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Originally Posted by Commander Wallace
Admittedly, I have never tried the adventure bikes like you have, Then again, I don't have access to them like you do.  I think they are styled great. I have no doubt the engineering in them is also sound and you can go anywhere with yours.
For me, riding upright all day on your bike would be problematic. I guess it's all in what you like and are comfortable on. I would never put down Harley's and or their drivers. However, I have the tank off of an Ultra Classic Harley. It is a motorcycle that easily exceeds $ 30,000 dollars. In looking at the tank, the welds stick up 3/8 of an inch.
Not to be rude but the welds look like they were done by blind workers in a third world country. Those welds would have never passed quality control in Japan or on a Triumph Motorcycle and many other manufacturers. Keep in mind, this is on a motorcycle that is better than $ 30,000 dollars. This says nothing of some of the deficiencies in the Harley engines. Most consumers demand better quality.
I was once asked at a motorcycle rally what I thought of Harley's. I responded, they make great expensive t shirts.  My comment wasn't well received. However, it's evident Harley is selling a culture, not quality motorcycle. That being said, I have seen some awesome Harley's. A friend of mine has FXR's and Dyna Wide Glides in fantastic shape. They look and ride like they are brand new. The question is, are they worth the exorbitant prices that are being asked for them ?
Only the individual motorcycle rider can answer that question.
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I've always ridden in a group that's a mixed bag of brands, as expected you can just imagine the trashtalking in a good sense

no one is spared of the others opinion when it comes to the other's brand but all in fun spirit.
Got an uncle and aunt which are pretty much HD in every sense of the word untill recently, they changed bikes to something that provides more rider comfort as their age have caught up.
What one spends on a motorcycle is all up to the rider to value it's worth he/she gets out of it. I wouldn't spend 30.000 on something that tends to shake itself apart and requires tons of maintenance and knowledge to keep running but I know there's people out there that love every bit of it.