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Old 12-29-22, 11:40 AM   #8893
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Originally Posted by mapuc View Post

The question here is not who's gonna win the war but who will be forced to give in, after been under massive pressure from USA, NATO, UN a.s.o.

Yes Biden and other leaders has said they will give aid to Ukraine as long as it has to...however I think this help has its limits.
Exactly, due to homegrown prsssure from national populations. The US, NATO cannot press Russia to give in - they can make life harder for Russia, but they cannot directly pressure it enough to "give in" - that would in clude to send own troops and become an actively fighting war faction. The only ones the US ands nATO cna poress for anything, it the ukraine. Without weapons, without sophisticated means of destroying columns of Russian platforms on the goprund and in the air, and killing Russian soldiers, the Ukrain e necessarily must lose this war in the long run.

Fools like Macronman and Bubble-Olaf either do not understand this - or understand it all too well and exactly aim at right this: forcing the Ukraine to give in. It is very telling how little military and other assistance France has provided so far.

https://www.nzz.ch/international/fra...en&_x_tr_sl=de


Personally, I currently give any speculation about negotiating a peace zero chance. I also think the war will not end next year, but may last severla years, in a frozen or active status. In my reading, the war lasts since 8 years already.
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