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Old 12-20-22, 10:02 AM   #8795
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I have the feeling, too, that the Ukrainian losses are heavier than what is vaguely described to be, if even being mentioned at all. We know that the Russians are firinbg sevcerlka times a smnany artikleklry shewlls form beginning on. This cnanot happen without causing effects as long as they do not shoot 180° at the opposite direction. Its also pretty clear that the weapons given to Ukraine, the Western systems I mean, are superior to Russian counterparts - but that they are just drops of water on a hot stone, due to their small numbers.



Just days ago i said that Ukraine may have - or may have had - the tactical initiative in the grond battle, but that Russia, as that Kremlin-critical politologist I quoted said, seems to have the (strategic) initiative back, and that its reserves in quantity, though not quality, are immense. And that Russia can have destroyed boig parts of Ukraine even if if being driven out of the country.



We do not understand or do not want to see that this already is a war were thew Werst has taklen sides and is deeply involve din it, whether we like it or not. Still we refuse to wake up to this reality and fight this war as would be needed, instead we are coincerned all day long to not provoke Russia more.



I do not see Ukraine loosing soon, but currently I see it loosing nevertheless in the long run. Either by gettign defated by Russia, or by paying a so big price for driving Russia out that it is effectively destroyed as a livable state and survivable entity.



Our acts in this war lack the needed determination. Poland and the Baltic states see it, understand it, but them alone cannot doo too much, even if, standardized by their economy and population size, do many factors as much than Europe or the US. They simply lack the total net weight.



And then there also is a lets call it formal dilemma. Ukraine is no NATO member, formally. Still I demand that we defend it and it is demanded by some that we fight over it as if it were a NATO member. This of course is a contradiction, it renders NATO membersup kind of pointless. If you must not be NAOT membe rin order to benefit form prteciton by NATO, then what poiunt is ther ean ylonge rin doiferebntiating between formal membership and non-membership? Its a dilemma and I have no reply to it, just pragmatic acting - acting to get engaged in this war, accepting the contradiction in this policy, and excusing it with further leading own survival interests and strategic interests that effect ourselves more than the Ukraine. We should niot be in this position, but unfortunately we are. We have no reasonable answer, and still must decide and do and live with it. Things are not perfect. Sometimes life just sucks.
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