Originally Posted by Skybird
I dont know where it was, but some weeks ago I read about these modernized T-72. They are substantially equipped and boosted with NATO technology: better optics, thermals, fire control systems, reactive armour, and some more. They better are not beign tought of as "just" T-72, they are much better, not en par with modern Western tank designs, but much better than Russian T-72s or T-90s (which in principle are nothing more than modernised T-72: modernised by Russian standards).
It hopefully will increase pressur eon Germany. Bubble-Olaf uses the argument, that Leopards could fall into Russian hands and give away NATO technology,as a chepa escuse (one of severals) to deny deliover yof MBTs to Ukraine. But these ,modenrised T-72 alsop carry quite some critical NATO techhnology i them, and could flal into Russian hands. Bubble-Ola al.so sdays he ponly acts in coordinmation with deicisons by Wahsington, but Wahsington approves the tnak dela here (an deny anyway that ther eis any agreement on to act only in close coordinatiio nwn hen it comes to tnak deloveries). The german industry has many Lrepard-2A4s parked in its backyards , and has refurbished many of them alrready, and since months begs the chancellor'soffice for permission to instantly deliver them. The chancellor completely refuses to do so, and evades in wrong claims, lies, and most obvious manouvers. If he doe snto simply rightout ignore any such questions, which is his preferred method.
On this Russian force and these old tanks the Russians must use, the Leopard-2A4, if competently commanded and tactically led, could feast royally. Thats exactly the kind of enemy they were made for to hunt and kill.
There is also a huge number of Leopard-1A5s parked in the industry's backyard. Smaller cannons, less armour - but faster and more agile than anything the Russians field in the Ukraine. They could be used as mobile artillery in close distance support against infantry, for example. I would not set them up against T-72 in the open. The T-72 was made to defeat Leopard-1s.
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