[CB..]

yes i think this crosses over a little with the bishop being niave thread a while back---we are getting into a major crisis surrounding not politics but religion...this is because -i believe (LOL)- we are insanely niave about how members of fundamentalist religious organisations actually view the rest of the population---even where on the surface there is a layer of pleasant gobble-de-gook how do you do god is love rhetoric under neath there is enough venal insanity to make even Hitler blush--
even Christianity which is generally supposed to be fairly harmless by and by-- is founded with the concept that countless billions of people are going to suffer eternally whilst a select few bounce up and down glee fully in bliss-full contentment--not IMO a terribly desirable soloution to the worlds problems--would you buy a used car from these people? frankly i think it's about time we stopped pussy footing around the issues and confronted the religious leaders -of all persusions -on what exactly their beliefs entail and how seriously they expect to be able to influence society as a whole towards their desired model..

it's no longer a quaint side issue..