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bigboywooly · 07-17-06, 11:33 AM

http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB30247.htm
Donitz war diaries

Maybe they carried the starshells at the start of the war only when the uboats were expected to act under the prize rules and search shipping for cargo types

"Open hostilities against England immediately, do not wait to be attacked first." In radio message T.O.O. 1400 Naval War Staff ordered: "U-boats to make war on merchant shipping in accordance with operations order." This should exclude any misunderstanding, as the operations order expressly orders war against merchant shipping in accordance with prize law.

As for giving their position away well same page has this

Radio intelligence service has picked up numerous U-boat positions, mainly in Biscay (U47). Many of these are probably duplicated. If the war against merchant shipping is to be fought according to prize law it is unavoidable that the boats' positions will be revealed.

U-boats which have returned say, that in very many cases ships use their radio when they are ordered to stop, with the result that in several cases a/c have appeared over the positions reported. In this way ships assist enemy anti-S/M activity. I consider it necessary to take action against such ships in order to prevent their taking part in anti-S/M operations in this way, and I have asked Naval War Staff for a ruling.

But nothing says they actually used starshells - in fact quite the revese

It can be taken as certain that these transports sail at night; and at night the U-boat must be able to assume that a darkened ship is an enemy ship, even if in convoy. It is often impossible to establish the nationality of ships in convoy even by day and when flags are not being misused, but at night it is quite out of the question.

This report I like

U 34 entered port. She sank:

1)S.S. Gustav Adolf 935tons Swedish contraband
2)British Sperrbrecher 1,200 tons British
3)S.S. Malabar 7,976 tons British
4)Steamer type Cairnona 4,666 tons"
5)S.S. Bronte 5,317 tons
6)Tanker 6-7,000 tons
Total 26,094 tons
She also brought in the Norwegian "Snar", 3,176, tons, timber, as prize.

Be nice to bring in prize ships in the game

07-17-06, 11:33 AM	#10
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB30247.htm Donitz war diaries Maybe they carried the starshells at the start of the war only when the uboats were expected to act under the prize rules and search shipping for cargo types "Open hostilities against England immediately, do not wait to be attacked first." In radio message T.O.O. 1400 Naval War Staff ordered: "U-boats to make war on merchant shipping in accordance with operations order." This should exclude any misunderstanding, as the operations order expressly orders war against merchant shipping in accordance with prize law. As for giving their position away well same page has this Radio intelligence service has picked up numerous U-boat positions, mainly in Biscay (U47). Many of these are probably duplicated. If the war against merchant shipping is to be fought according to prize law it is unavoidable that the boats' positions will be revealed. U-boats which have returned say, that in very many cases ships use their radio when they are ordered to stop, with the result that in several cases a/c have appeared over the positions reported. In this way ships assist enemy anti-S/M activity. I consider it necessary to take action against such ships in order to prevent their taking part in anti-S/M operations in this way, and I have asked Naval War Staff for a ruling. But nothing says they actually used starshells - in fact quite the revese It can be taken as certain that these transports sail at night; and at night the U-boat must be able to assume that a darkened ship is an enemy ship, even if in convoy. It is often impossible to establish the nationality of ships in convoy even by day and when flags are not being misused, but at night it is quite out of the question. This report I like U 34 entered port. She sank: 1)S.S. Gustav Adolf 935tons Swedish contraband 2)British Sperrbrecher 1,200 tons British 3)S.S. Malabar 7,976 tons British 4)Steamer type Cairnona 4,666 tons" 5)S.S. Bronte 5,317 tons 6)Tanker 6-7,000 tons Total 26,094 tons She also brought in the Norwegian "Snar", 3,176, tons, timber, as prize. Be nice to bring in prize ships in the game __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Last edited by bigboywooly; 07-17-06 at 11:42 AM.