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Originally Posted by andy_311
I would disagree with the sunny day,i been in LE in all sorts of weathers,I enter the loch just of dead centre of the channel and proceed towards the harbour and make my way to the SW side of the harbour that's were all the goodies are (BB's Cruiser,Tankers,etc)
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Fair enough... once you know the way in.
Renegade - If you try to run across the top of a subnet on the surface, you'll make a whole lot of noise... I had real issues getting out of Wilhelmshaven until I clicked.
I'm pretty damned sure same applies to boats with a draft equal or greater than yours. I haven't met a sub net that has no break in it yet, apart from some of the nets across some of the sound between Hoy and Flotta in the Orkneys (Flotta being the "C" shaped island to the left of Hoxa Sound.)
There's also nets and mines across the bay on South Ronaldsay near the entrance into Scapa Flow proper. Note that this is with the Grey Wolves mod.
In other words, there'll always be a channel into a harbour that has no sub-nets. But seriously, a harbour is a horrible place to attack something. Try it a few times, and you'll see what I mean.
Oh, and in the Grey Wolves mod, areas of deep water in harbours tend to be subnetted and/or mined, e.g., Waulkmill Bay in Scapa Flow.
Andy - the sunny day thing is for using your scope to dodge mines etc. on the way in - These images are from me plotting a minefield around Hartlepool.
(this is the bit that needs good light...)
(the marks are spotted mines.)
Interestingly enough, I got spotted by the armed trawler shortly thereafter, but it started searching around the minefield perimeter when I'd charged straight into it... it only came in when I surfaced and shot at it woth my deck gun to test a theory.
I think the AI assumes you'll avoid minefields.