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Originally Posted by Catfish
b.t.w. no one in the west wanted to have Ukraine in NATO 
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Are you sure !?
Only one month ago there were none who could think of Ukraine being an EU member...today more and more voices in EU has said Ukraine shall become a member as soon as possible.
I imagine the same could very well happens when it comes to a NATO membership. That in a month or so voices are speaking positive for Ukraine being a NATO member.
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Found this written in a Danish article(it's behind a paywall, so I only copy what is readable)
"If Putin makes the threat of a nuclear attack a reality, NATO can no longer keep up, writes former Danish Consul General in St. Petersburg
We are in many ways defenseless if the attack comes. Did NATO learn anything from Crimea?
NATO is arming itself, but it is still too little and too uneven if we are to keep up with Putin
One of the most irrelevant data highlighted when assessing Russia's military strength is that the country's gross domestic product, GDP, is smaller than Italy's. It's a blind spot - because the key is what Russia can and wants. Before the invasion of Ukraine, Russia was waging war in two places - Eastern Ukraine and Syria. The classic definition of a great power - to be able to wage two wars at the same time.
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