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Old 07-12-06, 06:16 PM   #14
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the old debate we had so often - is a result of 51:49 a valid argument to say that 51% effectivly must be read as 100%, or is it closer to say it is half:half. We know where it will lead to - nowhere. Let's better fight about who has the better HOTAS, you American guy that I hate so much!

That someone likes Bush does not give him the right to claim that Bush also represents those Americans who did not vote for him, and today are still against him, or had voted for him and later have changed their minds against him, which all in all apearrantly are even more than just 49% today (if the polls have even a minimum of meaning). Insisting on such a claim means effectivly denying those who voted against him to have a different opinion. And that is not democratic understanding, but totalitarian. Accepting the possebility of an oppostion in opinions is a basic ingredient of democracy, wether it be a republic, or not. Deny that right, and you have killed any democracy there was. -

But all that is academical only. As a matter of fact a majority of Germans still feel sympathy for America, some have american friends, and most germans do not hate american Joe Smith and Lisa Brown, while also a clear majority do not like Bush and do not welcome him. If you think that equals a description of Germans hating Americans or being against America in principal, then you will have to live with that queer opinion, because we Germans probably will not change our minds. -

August,
your no-sense reference to Poland was dumb and definitely not needed - and you know that. The same pattern that has been displayed again and again and again over the last years. Do those guys that are unhappy with something in Germany never get tired of always wanting to push back the time and come up with the Third Reich as an "argument" again? If you would be familiar with politics over here, then you would have noticed that currently Poland and it's dubious twins are throwing a lot of hostile and quite nationalistic rethorics towards Germany - not the other way around. We also have an antipathy against Führer-figures today that is beyond description and prevents us from forming strong governments. Our constitution even is designed to prevent such strong leading figures in politics on federal level. Now compare that to the fetish you make of Bush, or the powerful structure of the presidential job itself, and rejecting half of your people to be of different opinion than you are, as indicated in the posts above! And then you want to point fingers at us for planning to attack Poland again for nationalistic reasons...??? Absurd! We don't like Bush, and we do not respect the man. that is nothing about your constitutional order and cour country and your people. If you don't understand that, then okay, then do not understand it. We don't mind and we don't care. -

It's about a single man - not about a nation, nor a people. Take him back as soon as you can, most of us do not want him. That's all.
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