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The greatest victory in a war is where no shot is fired.

If Putin can get some of his demands without any shot is fired-He has won first round. Here I'm thinking on Ukraines wishes to join NATO

A promise and he can withdraw his troop without having lost his face.

Then there is this problem-the demand on Ukraine is not a stand alone problem Russia also demands demilitarization of former Eastern state like Bulgaria, Romania, Poland and the Baltic States

It can go three way.

1. Putin gets what he wants. 5-6 country leave NATO
2. Putin is promised that Ukraine never will join NATO.
3. Putin gets none of his demands.

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