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Catfish · 12-13-21, 10:37 AM

^ thanks for your statement too

re August the fact that there were national socialists in the US as there were a few in England does not necessarily mean that Hitler had started those movements directly, he sure saw his ideology as an idea which time had come; so he of course did not hinder them and did a bit of support – but there was not so much real/effective support in the end, also the main part of the population(s) were against Hitler's idea of an NS-like government in their countries. Seeing what had happened in Germany, together with some democratic background, their governments also were a bit wiser in quenching certain development in its early stages.

re Commander Wallace you are not wrong, but this idea of the Amerika bomber was, as the so-called "Vergeltungswaffen" (retaliation(!) weapons), an idea of the later war, when England would not budge, and America did not hold back fighting his boats even before an official declaration and a state of war officially existed. He was furious and really did not understand why they did this to his plans, or why at all. After all his ideas were about race, so why should THEY fight him?

Call him delusional (what he was) or crazy (what he openly became later), but in his initial invasion ideas he was only fixated on Russia, and had no plan to attack England or the US. There were of course plans in the drawer, with "if- cases", like Plan Weiß, Plan Blau and all that, but no one in the german Hitler entourage really believed that things would happen as they then did. Even Doenitz was astonished ("Total Germany" – "That this just of all happens to me, again"), and with his knowledge and experience this means something.
You can call them delusional, but they were not as crazy as planning an attack on the US. After 1943 it was all possible, as it was all in free fall regarding Germany winning the war.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,822 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ thanks for your statement too re August the fact that there were national socialists in the US as there were a few in England does not necessarily mean that Hitler had started those movements directly, he sure saw his ideology as an idea which time had come; so he of course did not hinder them and did a bit of support – but there was not so much real/effective support in the end, also the main part of the population(s) were against Hitler's idea of an NS-like government in their countries. Seeing what had happened in Germany, together with some democratic background, their governments also were a bit wiser in quenching certain development in its early stages. re Commander Wallace you are not wrong, but this idea of the Amerika bomber was, as the so-called "Vergeltungswaffen" (retaliation(!) weapons), an idea of the later war, when England would not budge, and America did not hold back fighting his boats even before an official declaration and a state of war officially existed. He was furious and really did not understand why they did this to his plans, or why at all. After all his ideas were about race, so why should THEY fight him? Call him delusional (what he was) or crazy (what he openly became later), but in his initial invasion ideas he was only fixated on Russia, and had no plan to attack England or the US. There were of course plans in the drawer, with "if- cases", like Plan Weiß, Plan Blau and all that, but no one in the german Hitler entourage really believed that things would happen as they then did. Even Doenitz was astonished ("Total Germany" – "That this just of all happens to me, again"), and with his knowledge and experience this means something. You can call them delusional, but they were not as crazy as planning an attack on the US. After 1943 it was all possible, as it was all in free fall regarding Germany winning the war. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.