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Originally Posted by Skybird
Longer, much longer. Its Islam as well as old patriarchalism you are up against. Both together are a monumental formation.
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Oh yeah,
much longer. We won't live to see it.
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
Well, look at as we may, Biden last month said this would not happen(helicopters evacuating people off a roof top). 
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Well, that's just an extension of our political stupidity. I'm willing to bet the last 3 presidents would have said the same thing and been just as wrong.