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Originally Posted by The Avon Lady
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Originally Posted by scandium
Germany back then, after their defeat in the Great War, the shame of the Versailles treaty, and the economic crisis of the '20s, faced radical change and challenges that are not terribly unlike those in Europe after the toppling of the Berlin Wall, the collapse of the USSR, and the creation of the EU. The changes this time are much more positive, but perhaps no less radical and challenging to one's national identity. That, at least, could explain (in part) the irrational Islamophobia that is suddenly sweeping through Europe;
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How about the fact that for possibly the first time in history, Islamic texts and lierature has become available to the public to read and digest?
How about the fact that what Islamic preaches say today and are recorded for posterity in their own web sites, on video, in printed material and trascripts, declares that Islam does indeed advocate using a variety of methods, from preaching (da'wa) to lying (taquiya) to physical military force (Jihad - yes, that kind of Jihad) to subjugate an infidel world (dar al-harb) into following Islam or, at the least being subserviant to it (dhimmitude) in countries that are to convert to the Islamic legal system (Sha'aria)? |
The assumption that a significant part of the European population opposes Islam because they recognize its inherent dangers seems too optimistic to me. I am more inclined to believe that they merely distrust (and in some cases hate) muslims because of their obvious tendency to cause trouble (many crimes, vandalism, robbery, random violence, harassment), often combined and apparently at least partially caused by their very obvious contempt for those who are not of their kind.
That is, at least, what most people who object to muslims and that I interact with seem to have as their motivation for being against muslims. Not so much the religious basis (which most do not understand, and are not inclined to learn about when they could spend their time on more omportant things like TV and alcohol), but the fear that they, or people they care about, might also become victims of infidel-hating or white-hating muslim criminal gangs.
Regardin certain people's tendencies to assume that Churchill would oppose "Islamophobia", well, maybe. On the other hand, perhaps he'd recommend colonizing the Middle East and gassing the muslims. Who knows? And we can't really ask him anymore.
"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
--Winston Churchill
I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes. -- Winston Churchill