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Old 07-04-06, 08:05 PM   #6
Der Teddy Bar
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M_B1v,
Thankyou for your well thought out post.

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1: In 1940 all 4 escorts would not have abandoned their convoy to hunt a single sub for 24 hours, especially after all their munitions were gone. Hunter Killer doctrine wasn't adopted till much later in the war.
This is not anything that we have control over. The percentage of escorts that may or may not respond is hard coded.


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2: I doubt destroyers would hang around pinging after munitions were used up. They would attract every sub around with that amount of pinging and present quite a good target just sitting there.
If they have a lock on you they would, as they know that you must surface at sometime and they have bigger and better guns than you.


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3: There is absolutely no way to get away from 4 (1940) destroyers (unless there is something in the manual I haven't read). I tried every trick I know.
Thankfully this is not true. I am presuming that you may still be of the old mind set where ordering silent running enabled the SHIII Glingon Cloaking Device.

Please read these threads…
How to escape the Über-AI (NYGM2.0)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=94201

In the immortal words of Ali G ‘Respect’, a new way of playing…
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=93981

NYGM ruined my weekend
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=94720

Crash Dive Blues!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=92883


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4: It was my first cruise, but I wouldn't expect my entire crew to be reduced to the point that they cannot operate the boat at all.
If you are using SH3 Cmdr it may be that you do not have the NYGM Crew Management enabled?

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It does seem to be a bug to me unless I am missing something. Its Happy Times, but attacking a convoy seems suicide if you are detected.
I wonder how many players are aware that u-boat’s & submarines attacked predominately at night and on the surface. Convoy battles were a night time exercise.

U-boats are fragile and when submerged very limited in the ability to travel far or for that long.

They were not undetectable when submerged, but when a u-boat attacks on the surface then this is not an issue.

In the video interview with Jurgen Oesten he relays how in 1939 while submerged, inferring that he was just not found due to any previous action, he was detected and attacked by a lone destroyer.

He goes on to say that the destroyer was very accurate and that the destroyer knew exactly where he was. This destroyer gave his u-boat a massive work over with him eventually ending up on the bottom at 134 metres with his u-boat extensively damaged and unable to move. He also relates that the hull was buckled in from a depth charge that also knocked the port diesel engine off it mounts.

It is inferred to have been over many hours possibly in double figures. On the 3rd night they surfaced to find that a trawler had been left there to watch for the u-boat possibly surfacing!

In NYGM TW v2.1 you can get sometimes get within 800 metres of an escort and not be detected.

I hope that this helps.
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