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Originally Posted by Catfish
@Kapitan: Appreciate your answer and reasons. I also want to say sorry if i aggravated you, only excuse is i am getting tired of nationalist BS and i am too often insinuating this everywhere recently, and sometimes unfounded.
I am sure there are a lot of faults that are initiated or at all made possible, by the EU. I do not hope it will fall, but if it will be due to over-nationalist thinking and populists searching a scapegoat for own problems. It is also attacked by China and Russia, seeing a successful model of national states working together on science, trade and values.
The EU should change in a lot of aspects, yes.
If people think their own culture is under threat by a trade union i do not think much of a precious culture exists. If a culture like in Afghanistan demands to sell and marry their underage daughters i tell them they can shove their culture up their behind.
If a club like the EU is better or worse than doing it in solo effort "in a multipolar world"? There are reasons for both .. we will see. All else is speculation.
We have seen a political right shift all over the world, then the US "switched off" for four years in a way, and Putin's idea of a multipolar world has been gaining momentum. China has challenged the West on its own capitalist basis. All this will have an effect on democratic nations. I personally do not think this is good for humanity altogether. And by all faults organisations like the EU have, it is one of the few bulkheads that help smaller states against the big bullies.
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You haven't aggravated me at all so don't worry about that

I understand the frustration though
For me I agree that a culture that sells its underage daughters and does preaches violence's and aggression is not something I would like to be part of or endorse.
When you mentioned selling underage daughters though it does happen in the EU still.
My friend Marius told me about the Kalaidzhi peoples of Romania and how they auction off their daughters and a lot of them are subjugated, i did want to find out more and after Covid I will meet up with him if he is back in Romania.
But I did find this interesting though in the mean time.
As for nationalist not really (no don't have a big EDL tattoo on my chest

) because I see faults in the UK as I do in Canada and just about every country I look into in detail. I was born in the UK I have duel citizenship with Canada, I have family scattered across the world.
I have Family in Canada, Australia, United States, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Australia, New Zealand, Latvia and probably some ones I don't know about.
As you know I have travelled extensively what a lot of people don't know is I have lived in other countries other than the UK and Canada, I have lived in Holland, Denmark and Germany (admittedly not for any great length of time)
My personal thought on the EU is overall the entire plan is admirable, i do like it however its the way its implemented and how certain countries can do one thing and not another and how one rule affects one but not the other so i guess you could say that's more down to a fairness.
I do fully agree some changes need to be made and I do think they should be just a trading power block that can have a round table of member states where industry standards can be thrashed out and everyone would follow.
And here's one key item the EU has already done this in several ways in my own industry, I love the fact the EU bought in standardization across all member states in my industry, I like the driving hours rules because it protects the driver and manager and these are positives of the EU.
I agree that in some ways the EU does protect the smaller countries, however in others they will hang them out to dry as well.
China is now the new monster in the Room and in all honesty I don't think Russia is going to be the major problem come 2050.
If the west can court Russia I fully believe that China will be alone in the world (Russians don't like Chinese anyways) but right now Putin's mind set is the enemy of my enemy is my friend so they tolerate China to bring notice to them.
If Russia could participate in European trade more actively than what it is then I think we have a big ally on our side.
After all if we look back in history Russia tends to sway to the European side anyway so why alienate them.