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And again you have ignored several pieces of simple references to ongoing present events, as described by me and others. simply ignoring anything that does not have a place in your view of things, insisting that your view is right, without founding that claim. It's the boogeyman, it's hysteria, it's Islamophobia - then it should be very easy for you to pick apart every argument people like me are giving, since they al,l are not real, and not based on any real facts. Should be very easy to destroy such arguments. Instead we get evasive phrases, vague references, changes of categorial levels, distractions. This is my last direct reply to you. Talking to a wall is not interesting.

Muhammad unfortunately was no boogeyman. He was a reality. So are his teachings thnat you prefer to ignore, which have survived almost unchanged until today, and who are the unquestioned, living, undoubted basic of any Islam there could be, every Muslim agreeing on that. You will not find any musolim in the world who tells you that the koran could be changed and certain chapters could be erased. You will not find a simpole Musli9m that doubts that Muhammad, a bandit, warmonger and mass murder, was a very great and peace-bringing man. You will not find a single muslim who agrees that something that does not stand on the basis of Koran, Hadith, muhammad and medina-Model could ever be "Islam".

Even when we will have lost all and everything, our identity, our history, our culture, our homes and our values, and when we will have become strangers in our own forefather's heritage, you still will argue that Islam has nothing to do with it. In forty years, by the single logic of birthrates, roughly a 60-70% majority of French population will be Muslim, from families that never had any link to european peoples and tribes. No problem for you. The same fate will be suffered by Germany, and then the other european countries. European culture and historical identity as we know it today and since the last centuries - will be completey wiped out and it's remains distorted until they could not be recognized in roughly 80-120 years - due to the simple charm of birthrates of already existing colonies in europe. we have more urgent problems in society, you say. I wonder what that could be, becasue Islam will take care of all this, in it's own ways. Possible that we will not like to see how it deals with it. It will deal with it in the same way it dealt with such problemsa in the past 1400 years, and that led to the societies of the muslim nations we have today. And we even do not talk about additional immigration levels in this, we just talk on the basis of already existing Muslim population sizes in Europe.

but you say all that is no problem, and we have more important things to adress. I start to wonder if maybe you are a Muslim propagandist yourself, being so eager to help Islamization of the West at all cost and so stubbornly. At least Islam loves you - you also assist it'S 1400 years old ambitions with all your determination, you not only perfectly suit it's needs, you also perfectly obey it's demands (written down black on white, btw, and obeyed by over one billion people worldwide). And you even do not realize it - that is the real joke in it.

Before questioning the reputation of Robert Spencer, better make sure that you can compete with his competence on the matter - and that this could be the case I do not see even by way of a hint. That way you damage not his but only your own reputation.

From his biography:
Spencer (MA, Religious Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) has been studying Islamic theology, law, and history in depth since 1980. He is an Adjunct Fellow with the Free Congress Foundation, and his monographs on Islam are available from the Foundation: An Introduction to the Qur'an; Women and Islam; An Islamic Primer; Islam and the West; The Islamic Disinformation Lobby; Islam vs. Christianity; and Jihad in Context.
His articles on Islam and other topics have appeared in the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Dallas Morning News, Canada's National Post, FrontPage Magazine.com, WorldNet Daily, Insight in the News, Human Events, National Review Online, and many other journals. He has consulted with United States Central Command on Islam and jihad, and has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism on the BBC, CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, PBS, C-Span, and Croatia National Televison (HTV), as well as on numerous radio programs including Michael Savage's Savage Nation, The Alan Colmes Show, The G. Gordon Liddy Show, The Neal Boortz Show, The Michael Medved Show, The Michael Reagan Show, The Larry Elder Show, The Barbara Simpson Show, Vatican Radio, and many others.

There certainly may be even more educated guys out there, writing even more significant books, but you cannot even challenge this one! Only saying "I don't believ it!" Your only weapons so far has been "I don't care for facts and ignore them, I simply do believe different, it cannot be what shall not be". And that is too thin for me. But it makes me angry, for you help to destroy what I prefer to see surviving without being Islamized. I have been in Islamic countries, anf for quite a logner while, and not in tourist hotels, but in the reality of poor villages and forgotten countrysides, conflict zones in eastern Turkey and religiuous corelands in iran, the unknown countrysides where you see the real face of the country, the people, their believings. This is the side of Islamic culture you almost never see in the TV news, and in evening-filling docus. I don'T like that world a bit, because it represents where Europe mentally was - a thousand years ago.

If you happen to understand written German, get copies of H.-P. Raddatz : "Von Gott zu Allah?", "Von Allah zum Terror?" and "Der Schleier Allahs." These books, a trilogy, are some of the most fundamental literature I ever red about Islam (which was quite some, btw.), they are scary, although a bit difficult to read, since they are overloaded with informations and cross-references. Because they uncompromisingly and straight present simple facts in Islamic scriptures, compare them simply to present practice, and compare to history again, so far critics have found it extremely tough to argue with their content - they tend to ignore and bypass them instead. All info can be easily checked by yourself in any history book you want to pöick up for that purpose, and in present national statistics which are available via internet. No way to evade that information, his ammount of straight references and his encyclopedic knowledge simply are too overwhelming. Needless to say that Muslims since years try to kill him, and Europe is glad that it got rid of him (he finally fled to America).