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Three14 · 06-25-06, 04:07 PM

Some random information:

I lived in China for awhile, and I'm actually involved with some cross-border research. I don't know if it bears on this, but we're doing something between Guangzhou and Texas and our pings are around 500ms. That's not great, but it's a sub game...

However, what is particularly bad between our two research centers is the packet loss. We don't have a good way to get around it, although our HK site connects to the US without problem. My guess, after looking at tracert, is that it's the Chinese backbone that is giving us trouble. We might try calling HK and connecting via dialup.

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I haven't read Bluebook in awhile, but the SLMM tactic I remember (born in the 688 days) was to use the SLMM to blow up the incoming torps. I didn't find this method that useful, myself, since evasion was always very easy in that game, but blowing things up had other uses (like masking firing).

What did stick out about the Bluebook was that it involved tactics for a game. Some tactics were from real life that worked in the game (and some probably didn't but nobody knew for sure), but the best ones were for the game. So, in the game world, an SLMM is not metal. There is no water. The stuff on the screen in active is probably just randomly generated with a blip for real contacts (which explains why you could mark targets when you see nothing, but not mark nothing if the noise looked good). It may or may not register as a contact to torpedoes. If, in reality, an ADCAP torpedo could not differentiate between a WW2 era torpedo and a 300+ foot-long submarine, I'd say that somebody owes me a tax refund.

Anyway, it's a game, and there are different reasons to play. Playing to win, or get kills, is nice, but I would then not expect the "winning" way to play to correspond to a Tom Clancy (or even cheesier) novel.

06-25-06, 04:07 PM	#9
Three14 Seaman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Some random information: I lived in China for awhile, and I'm actually involved with some cross-border research. I don't know if it bears on this, but we're doing something between Guangzhou and Texas and our pings are around 500ms. That's not great, but it's a sub game... However, what is particularly bad between our two research centers is the packet loss. We don't have a good way to get around it, although our HK site connects to the US without problem. My guess, after looking at tracert, is that it's the Chinese backbone that is giving us trouble. We might try calling HK and connecting via dialup. -- I haven't read Bluebook in awhile, but the SLMM tactic I remember (born in the 688 days) was to use the SLMM to blow up the incoming torps. I didn't find this method that useful, myself, since evasion was always very easy in that game, but blowing things up had other uses (like masking firing). What did stick out about the Bluebook was that it involved tactics for a game. Some tactics were from real life that worked in the game (and some probably didn't but nobody knew for sure), but the best ones were for the game. So, in the game world, an SLMM is not metal. There is no water. The stuff on the screen in active is probably just randomly generated with a blip for real contacts (which explains why you could mark targets when you see nothing, but not mark nothing if the noise looked good). It may or may not register as a contact to torpedoes. If, in reality, an ADCAP torpedo could not differentiate between a WW2 era torpedo and a 300+ foot-long submarine, I'd say that somebody owes me a tax refund. Anyway, it's a game, and there are different reasons to play. Playing to win, or get kills, is nice, but I would then not expect the "winning" way to play to correspond to a Tom Clancy (or even cheesier) novel.