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Old 06-23-06, 07:36 AM   #20
Kazuaki Shimazaki II
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Originally Posted by Kurushio
Ok, but we are talking SONAR here.
Sonar is actually quite similar to radar - it is a sensor, and dependent on electronics and the like.

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No...what I find annoying is that people from the ex-Soviet states, all they seem to do is try to put down the US military.
Woah. So everyone that doesn't just dogmatically worship the United States is an "ex-Soviet"?
Even if they are "supporting" West European products (Amizaur, who I talked to and know he's not particularly positive on Russian products)? BTW, Amizaur claims to come from Poland, which has no great love for Russia...
Stuart Slade (a.k.a. 40-knot myth killer) is a ex-Soviet? Despite the fact he wasn't particularly positive on Russian subs (the Russian sub history pages on the old Warships1.com page is largely his work, and they weren't too positive)?

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They are so biased it makes it hard on the eyes...and frankly I'm bored with it.
I find it stunning you aren't more bored with boards where everyone thinks the same thing...

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Not just here...but on literally every forum out there including a military forum where this bloke supposedly to do with Sptz would whine and cry about how Russians/Soviets were falsely portrayed as inferior blah blah blah...
Now, let's be objective. There is a certain tendency to do that in the West. Consider the early depictions of the AA-11 Archer in Larry Bond's books (i.e. Red Phoenix and Vortex) - given how he described the missile, it is obvious he does not know much about it at the time, which is reasonable. But you'd notice he automatically assumes it is a far inferior weapon to the Sidewinder despite coming out years later.

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...and I'm predictably seeing the same thing here. So a CVN can just about do 30 knots.
Let's start w/ you explaining to us what's so abhorrent about the idea that even an American aircraft carrier is forced to obey the laws of physics. With a HP:tonne ratio of only 3:1, even counting its large size it is moving plenty swift at 30-33 knots.

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US sonar is pretty much behind the rest of the world.
Ahh, how did this conclusion come about?

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Well you know what I say to these ex-stalinists who've come out from behind the Iron Curtain? I say: if the US defeated you with such crappy weapons/systems...what does that say about Soviet/Eastern Bloc equipment?
Any good "ex-stalinist" could easily point out that you were going after Third World nations.

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Now please...lets leave the chip off the shoulder.
Same goes to you, Kurushio...

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