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Skybird · 11-30-20, 05:06 PM

The Nord Stream 2 construction seems to continue. Three Russian supply ships and the construciton ship itself have left the harbour on Rügen were they spent the past months for reconfiguration, and currently cruise in the Baltic east of Bornholm and south of Gotland. The German authorities made it known to shipping traffic in the region where the pipeline's unfinished endings are located that all traffic should manouver with caution due to construction work in the area.

I dont like the complications and implications due to the Russians practicing their poisoning hobby so excessively, but agree more on finishing the pipeline than I disagree with it, it is of the far bigger strategic interest, and increases the options and degrees of freedoms in Europe's energy policies (not just Germany's: Europe's). In the end the US fumes only for one reason about this: because Europeans do not want to buy their liquid gas of inferior quality and for overpriced money. And additonal demand for US liquid gas is so very non-existent in Europe that the Germans have stopped a project to build a new terminal for these tankers in Wilhelmshaven (an offer made to appease the Americans). Problem is: the German failed to find any customers for it. Nobody wnats to buy the ameican gas. None. Not a single additional customer. Why bulding a terminal then at the cost of the German tax payer?

The Polish are angry only because they had their own plans to sack many coins for controlling energy imports to Europe via their own project that collided heads-on with Nord Stream 2. The Baltic states would have liked to have a finger on the blackmailing option trigger, too, and now see another pipeline placed that in case of them conflicting with Europe and wanting to blackmail it, could flank their strategic intentions. The Ukraine also loses options to steal gas from the transit pipeline and possibly blackmailing Europe via the pipeline on its territory. Okay, they all are pissed, I understand, its easy to see. I dont care. Poland pisses the EU and us a very lot since years. They should have expected that this must backfire sooner or later. Once the yhave turned from the by far a lead the biggest net receiver of money from Brussel into a serious net contributor, we can talk again about their strageicx relevance. Currently they take more money from Brussels than the next three or five biggest receivers alltogether.

And the Americans? I dont care either. Europe must learn to play them much tougher, and to be more brutal in defending its own economic interests against "America First".

But Europe also must grow some seriously more military muscles, no doubt on that either.

11-30-20, 05:06 PM	#1131
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,792 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Nord Stream 2 construction seems to continue. Three Russian supply ships and the construciton ship itself have left the harbour on Rügen were they spent the past months for reconfiguration, and currently cruise in the Baltic east of Bornholm and south of Gotland. The German authorities made it known to shipping traffic in the region where the pipeline's unfinished endings are located that all traffic should manouver with caution due to construction work in the area. I dont like the complications and implications due to the Russians practicing their poisoning hobby so excessively, but agree more on finishing the pipeline than I disagree with it, it is of the far bigger strategic interest, and increases the options and degrees of freedoms in Europe's energy policies (not just Germany's: Europe's). In the end the US fumes only for one reason about this: because Europeans do not want to buy their liquid gas of inferior quality and for overpriced money. And additonal demand for US liquid gas is so very non-existent in Europe that the Germans have stopped a project to build a new terminal for these tankers in Wilhelmshaven (an offer made to appease the Americans). Problem is: the German failed to find any customers for it. Nobody wnats to buy the ameican gas. None. Not a single additional customer. Why bulding a terminal then at the cost of the German tax payer? The Polish are angry only because they had their own plans to sack many coins for controlling energy imports to Europe via their own project that collided heads-on with Nord Stream 2. The Baltic states would have liked to have a finger on the blackmailing option trigger, too, and now see another pipeline placed that in case of them conflicting with Europe and wanting to blackmail it, could flank their strategic intentions. The Ukraine also loses options to steal gas from the transit pipeline and possibly blackmailing Europe via the pipeline on its territory. Okay, they all are pissed, I understand, its easy to see. I dont care. Poland pisses the EU and us a very lot since years. They should have expected that this must backfire sooner or later. Once the yhave turned from the by far a lead the biggest net receiver of money from Brussel into a serious net contributor, we can talk again about their strageicx relevance. Currently they take more money from Brussels than the next three or five biggest receivers alltogether. And the Americans? I dont care either. Europe must learn to play them much tougher, and to be more brutal in defending its own economic interests against "America First". But Europe also must grow some seriously more military muscles, no doubt on that either. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 11-30-20 at 05:16 PM.