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Old 11-08-20, 11:07 AM   #11113
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From the closed election thread.

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat View Post
Well of course. There will always be questions about this election. Dimocrats never accepted the 2016 election results and always viewed Trump as an illegitimate President.
The irony is Trump never accepted the 2016 results either. He just could not imagine that he lost the popular vote, in the trumpverse such a possibility does not exist: its against trumpverse's naturals laws. A trumpverse has only one nucleus: a socalled trump (thus no plural for that word).

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You can be certain the GOP will do all they can to block Biden's agenda and make him a one term president.
Indeed, the destruction and war-at-all-costs will continue, the precious republican ego has suffered what it sees as a big bruise and offence,. retaliation mjst be promised, revenge mist be taken. Mitch McConnell, the man who said during impeachment and before that he does not care for truth and evidence but will bail out Trump at any cirucmstance, no matter the evidence, at any cost, NO MATTER WHAT, already said that the senate if led by Republicans will completely boycott and totally block Biden on each and everything. Total blockade. That asks one question for the American people: "Wollt ihr wirklich den totalen Krieg?" This time they do not invade and occupy and destroy some other foreign country - but their own.

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I have to admit I don't know why foreigners are so happy about Biden. You have to be pretty naive to think there will be substantial changes in U.S. foreign policy. For example, Biden will still try to kill Nord Stream 2 and pressure the Germans to stop being freeloaders and contribute their fair share to NATO.
Here we do absolutely agree. There indeed are quite some people over here who think that with Biden comes a change in political doctrine and priorities, on the other hand there are also not few who see that this is unlikely to happen. Manners, tone and style will chnage for the better, the diplomatric handgreande lobbing will end - but Biden pretty muich follows the basic orientation of US foreign policy, and that is turning away from Europe - a development alreeady starting under Clinton and being continued by Bush jr. and Obama, and under Obama quite obviously already. Seeing that Merkel seems to have started to be a bit disconnected from reality (her Corona handling imo turns worse and worse and lacks any longterm plan or perspective) and the goivenr,ment members being plagued by dangerous illusions and megalomaniac (EU and Germany being the moral role models for the world and the world following EU's climate dictate) and a big dose of I think intellectual under-performance), I am pessimistic about the germans in special beign capable to adapt to the "real reality" instead of handling just their own imagnery model idea of reality as they wish it should be like, but isn't. I use to say the Germans are hysteric romanticists, remember? And once again they will pay dearly for this character trait.

On Nord Stream 2, two thign shappened that work for America. Navalny, and Biden. Without Nawalny and without Biden beign elected, Washington would have bitten on granite this time, too much we are pissed by the obvious doiuble standard and split tongue,m since this US demand to satop it is for wantign to sell own US gas instead of Europe buying Russian gas, evertyhign else is just coverup and propaganda. Its all about money, plain and simple. So, indeed possible that Nord Stream 2 will not survive assassination atempt of Nawalny and support for Biden. But the german psoition on Russian assassination atepts in the past alrteady has been contradiuctory and opportunistic, so its too early to bet money on the outcome of Nord Stream 2. Personally, I totally oppose the US demand, it is unappropriate and economcially and ecologically illogical for us and is to our disadvantage and hugely raised costs.

I must admit the bigger pride of the French for exmaple, leading them to resist the US more stubbornly, impresses me more than the Germans' daydreaming and cowardly opportunism. Same to be said about the cultural identity feeling in eastern Europe, i may not like the potlical condensates, but for the general attitude to insist on "we are we - not somebody else wanting what is ours" I have great sympathy. Thje eU policy on ths eissues reminds way too much of Sovjet resettlkement progrma d, culturla wengineering and social engineeriung to create the ideal servile and obedient Sovjet citizen that can better be controlled by the state's sovereigns. The EU is destroying Europe: its histolrically grown identity and diversity, its comeptitions that gave rise to excellence and - well, competition, its cultural development and values, repalicjng it all with brain-childs of desktop-offenders., central papnners and left-leaning social engineers plannign the idela citizen design for endlessly legitimising, praising and supporting the EU.
A very lot reminds of the Sovjet Union already, I must say. The physicla brutlaity and violence may not be there, but the psychological pressure is intense, and the legal blackmailing and social pressure for compliance even more.
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