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Old 07-20-20, 06:57 AM   #9787
Onkel Neal
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Originally Posted by Hawk66 View Post
First I apologize if my former thread was viewed as too rude. Was not my intention - It intended to be rhetorical questions but I guess it could be interpreted differently now looking at it in retrospect.


@Neal,
I agree that the people living there are part of the problem. But the question is why are the people living in those areas are like they are ? What I mean by this is that as a human you are being shaped by your environment (parents, neighborhood, friends and so forth). I guess I tell nothing new but this is often forgotten. That is also the reason why I referred to Colin Powell first's book. He clearly describes his personal battle to break out of this environment (and of crs the "issue" that he is a black in the 50s/60s). So, yes there is a chance to break out but like he describes it in his book via his personal story, only the strongest, smartest and most dedicated people achieve that. Frankly, 80-90% do not such have those skills.

By the way - I have experienced similar things but much more soften here in my local town where I did a one-year civil service in an organization for long time unemployed people. Most of them have just given up (also young people), they see no chance for them anymore (they think that they cannot compete with rest of the society in terms of jobs) and try to have "comfort" by drinking or doing other bad things.

The agenda of Trump to reindustrialize the country with industries that former worked, will fail. Such an approach has never worked -on a broader scope longterm. It contradicts also completely the free market and the (proven) theories of Adam Smith. The goal to get to the root of the problem is described in the MIT book "The second machine age" : You have to educate the people so that they get new skills (and by this I do not mean necessarily college). You have to get rid of those poverty districts by active development of those people. You have to take money in the hand and give them a fair chance. The money, which you invest wisely (no socialist approach) will be paid back hundred times...

I understand. I removed my comments because I felt too harsh. I don't have ill feelings toward anyone (other than criminals). I'll have to add Powell's book to my reading list.

Pumping money into these moribund social centers would help some but I feel there are many who just want to ride the welfare train as long as they are able. We have been trying to raise the poor out of their mess since 1964, and it's no better. It's comforting to imagine the noble poor person who just needs a chance, in America, where foreign poor people try to get in because just being here gives them the best chance in the world.
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