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Skybird · 06-03-20, 11:13 AM

I have seen two long interviews of couples using the second, Austrian trailer, the Turtle, for 2-3 week tours. They did not mention problems with air moisture. But you are right, it is a point one has to check out. However, mindign you, there is a n open "door" below the sleeping plkace, with access to storage under the bed. Leaving it open, might help a bit. Or the entrance. Everybody having experience with a tent knows that potenmtial problem with air mposture inside a tent, no matter the outside temperature low or high. I like the principle and simple design ideas in both bike trailers. The turtle weighs just below 30 kg. That is remarkable! Two beer crates on my own trailer already give a weight above 40 Kg (I tested it also with 3 and for crates, 60 and 80 kg...), so I know how it would feel with the Turtle - easy.

I have done two "drills" with a 3x3 tarp, wires, tent pegs and two sticks earlier this year, just for fun, to fresh up the old experience. With that, and a further good ultralightweight equipment (sleeping bag, insulating mat) one could get along, one only needs to know proper techniques with tarp setup designs. I know two versions for an "almost sealed" and a "completely sealed" tent done with a Tarp of that size. ground water prove and wind-prove. No trees for anchoring a base wire needed.

Was thinking about doing a long hike to the North this year, but things kept getting in the way, amongst them health and a weak back.

But its fun to practice and see one can do it.

Wild camping over night in Germany is practically banned everywhere, and finding an abandoned place where nobody would find you if you do it, in this corner of Germany is pratcically impossible.

Bivvy bags I could not get used to. Claustrophobic. Good one works like they should, but I really cannot relax inside. Set up wrong, or bad products, will see you drowning either by rain or by sweat. In der Not frisst der Teufel Fliegen (= any port is good in a storm), but I would always prefer other options, if available.

He made it himself.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,696 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I have seen two long interviews of couples using the second, Austrian trailer, the Turtle, for 2-3 week tours. They did not mention problems with air moisture. But you are right, it is a point one has to check out. However, mindign you, there is a n open "door" below the sleeping plkace, with access to storage under the bed. Leaving it open, might help a bit. Or the entrance. Everybody having experience with a tent knows that potenmtial problem with air mposture inside a tent, no matter the outside temperature low or high. I like the principle and simple design ideas in both bike trailers. The turtle weighs just below 30 kg. That is remarkable! Two beer crates on my own trailer already give a weight above 40 Kg (I tested it also with 3 and for crates, 60 and 80 kg...), so I know how it would feel with the Turtle - easy. I have done two "drills" with a 3x3 tarp, wires, tent pegs and two sticks earlier this year, just for fun, to fresh up the old experience. With that, and a further good ultralightweight equipment (sleeping bag, insulating mat) one could get along, one only needs to know proper techniques with tarp setup designs. I know two versions for an "almost sealed" and a "completely sealed" tent done with a Tarp of that size. ground water prove and wind-prove. No trees for anchoring a base wire needed. Was thinking about doing a long hike to the North this year, but things kept getting in the way, amongst them health and a weak back. But its fun to practice and see one can do it. Wild camping over night in Germany is practically banned everywhere, and finding an abandoned place where nobody would find you if you do it, in this corner of Germany is pratcically impossible. Bivvy bags I could not get used to. Claustrophobic. Good one works like they should, but I really cannot relax inside. Set up wrong, or bad products, will see you drowning either by rain or by sweat. In der Not frisst der Teufel Fliegen (= any port is good in a storm), but I would always prefer other options, if available. He made it himself. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-03-20 at 11:37 AM.