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Originally Posted by scandium
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Originally Posted by bradclark1
In my veiw it's not religion, it's revolution, and when you want a revolution who do you recruit? The poor and those unhappy with their lot in life. They see themselves going nowhere in there own countries which have little to no industry and live hand to mouth. Why are muslims flocking to european countries? To improve their lot in life. What they find is low paying or no jobs at all and are treated as second class citizens. It isn't hard for these immams(?) to feed on this misery.
My view on these so called religious leaders is that a lot are nothing but wannabe mafia style boss's that use religion as a front to gain personal wealth and power. It's a huge scam and it's showing itself to be building in momentum.
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Interesting theory, but perhaps I think it interesting mainly because it is a much more complete and well reasoned explanation than that offered by the "Islam=terrorism" club  |
From the footnotes of the Canadian National Post article Sykbird and I posted yesterday:
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What follows are selected Koranic references to fighting and killing infidels.
- Baqara (2):190 - "And fight (qaatiloo) in the way of Allah those who fight you."
- Baqara (2):193 - "Fight them (qaatiloohum), till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's"
- Baqara (2):244 - "So fight (qaatiloo) in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is all-hearing, all-knowing."
- Nisaa' (4):76 - "Those who are believers fight (yuqaatiloona) in the way of Allah, and the unbelievers fight in the idols' way. So fight (qaatiloo) the friends of Satan; surely the guile of Satan is ever feeble."
- al-Anfaal (8):39 - "Fight them (qaatiloohum), till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah's entirely."
- al-Taubah (9):12 - "But if they break their oaths after their covenant and thrust at your religion, then fight (qaatiloo) the leaders of unbelief."
- al-Taubah (9):29 - "Fight (qaatiloo) those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and his messenger have forbidden -- such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book -- until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled."
- al-Taubah (9):123 - "O believers, fight (qaatiloo) the unbelievers (kuffaar) who are near to you, and let them find in you a harshness (ghilza)."
- Baqara (2):191 - "And slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you come upon them"
- Baqara (2):191 - "But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then if they fight you, slay them (aqtuloohum) -- such is the recompense of unbelievers."
- Nisaa' (4):89 - "then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you find them"
- Nisaa' (4):91 - "If they withdraw not from you, and offer you peace, and restrain their hands, take them, and slay them (aqtuloohum) wherever you come on them; against them we have given you a clear authority."
- al-Taubah (9):5 - "Then when the sacred months are drawn away, slay (aqtuloo) the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush."
- Nisaa' (4):74 - "So let them fight (yuqaatil) in the way of Allah who sell the present life for the world to come; and whosoever fights (yuqaatil) in the way of Allah and is slain, or conquers, we shall bring him a mighty wage."
- Muhammad (47):4 - "When you meet the unbelievers, smite (darba) their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads."
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Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
And this doesn't even touch all the other Islamic writings advocating the conquest of the infidel world, dar al-hab.
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