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Old 03-24-20, 02:26 AM   #8
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Hi guys, I've been procrastinating to write about how the visual sensors are broken by Makman's included modification of the same in M.E.P v6.

Makman set the visual sensor minimum height value at "0.0" (zero) +/-.

Zero is the height of the water plane if it were compared to a plate of glass. The above value does not account for things such as visual fog-factor and visual light value modifiers.

However, it does result in virtually automatic detection of objects as small as periscopes, at incredible ranges in SH3, by visual sensors in clear weather states, including night in SH3.

It appears that Makman's MinHeight visual sensor setting has been incorporated into the Hsie "Night Vision Fix" adjuster. Although I think I might know, it is not clear to me which value that adjuster alters.

However, I can tell you that in GWX 3.0 as delivered, the visual sensor minimum height is set at 0.4 meters. In my experience, the best modifiers to that value, appear to relate to wave height and fog factor. For clarity, the minimum height value is not an angle.

My advice, without any intention to be a jerk, is to either not use Makman's 'Visual Sensor fix" for GWX, and/or delete the AI_Sensors.dat as included with his environment mod / M.E.P v6. His visual sensor modification truly breaks and completely ubers the enemy AI visual sensors in SH3 and/or GWX, and accounts for a number of threads I've seen here.... with the commonality being M.E.P v6 with Makman's 'Visual Sensor fix" for GWX being in place.


I am truly not trying to be problematic here, but for clarity, the visual sensor minimum height factor set to zero in the Sensors_AI.dat file, completely BORKS the sensor.


I really like the 20k horizon mod, although I think the moon reflection in M.E.P v6 might be broken.... am still chasing confirmation of the broken reflection in my testing.... If it is broken, I'll try to fix it. Makman94 did some really neat things in modding directions other than sensors modification. Again, not trying to be a jerk, but after experiencing and reading about the problem described in this thread and several others, I am really concerned about his testing methodology and what other alterations to sensors he might have made. Describing his visual sensor modification as a "fix" does not seem appropriate to me. "Option".... sure! "Fix".... certainly not so.

Collectively we've been fighting vampire night vision in SH3 for 15 years now. So tiresome.
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