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Old 02-04-20, 11:30 AM   #12429
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Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
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The problem is not Europe. The problem is the EU - it claims what it empirially demands to be, and the bad government it provides.



And both are not only not the same. Both are antagonists.


WWII, its veterans and NATO did not and do not stand for the EU-project. They stand for Europe. A Europe that is being hijacked and abused by the EU to turn it into a planned economy tyranny with a radically left-leaning society model and an all-dominant superior Sovjet overseeing it all and ordering it what to do and what to think and what to want and what to say.



Britain's turn-away is not a defeat of liberty. Its a reminder of what liberty originally once was meant to be. The EU leaves you only one liberty: the liberty to be compliant with the EU'S wanted collectivistic totalitarianism, and the EU'S upper hand on all and evertyhing. That is not liberty, but the betrayal of liberty.



Being a veteran of WWII, does not save you from misunderstanding things in the present. The attempt to appease Hitler - was born out of the wish to never have something like WW1 again, and prove that reasoncan prevail. People had good intentions when hoping this course woudl succeed. But they were sleepwalking into the abyss, and made it all a self-fulfilling prophecy. They believed in unrealistic, in wrong truths. These veterans in the video may mean it well. This does not turn them into experts on the present, or the EU. Their merits are refering to what they did in the past - not necessarily to what they think in the present.



Thats why this clip to me is just a populist attempt by a group of activists to manipulate sentiments.
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