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Old 01-16-20, 11:56 AM   #8382
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And I do not think this trend will chnage over my lifetime. Indeed I think the trend will never reverse again, and the US will become more and more tyrannical.
I don't see it. Not much has changed. Is Trump more tyrannical than Obama? I could easily make good arguments to support either claim. I'm 69 years old and I don't see a whole lot of difference in any administration in my lifetime. The biggest change that I notice today is the hyper partisan nature of politics. That I blame on the advent of social media. Thirty years ago if a polititian wanted to say something he had to find a reporter and a TV camera. Today he picks up his phone. People say stupid things.

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You are too self-convinced, as a citgizen of the US I mean.
Once again Skybird I will remind you. I am not now nor have I ever been an American citizen. But I do like to follow American politics. It's the big league.

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Neutral instance deicding on the evidnce: non.-existent. No court. No judge.
And there is the problem with an impeachment that is based not solely on criminal chargres but also on political crimes. In the US judges are political appointees. What guarantee can you give that they would act in an impartial manner? The framers of the constitution set the impeachment bar very high for just that reason. If the Democrats can make a case that Trump has committed actual crimes rather that political crimes then public opinion and political support will turn against him. That is what happened to Richard Nixon. But the charges against Trump, ‎abuse of power‎, ‎obstruction of Congress could easily be leveled against Pelosi and Schiff. It is not a very strong case and will almost certainly fail to remove Trump from office.

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Its not meant to work.
It is meant to work in the political arena and and yes it is mostly show. The creepy video of Democrats walking the impeachment articles over to the Senate that resembles some kind of religious ceremony is proof of that.
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