[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Konovalov,

And you again are blind to the fact that another time the faction you want so hard to represent is involved and the vast majority of it remains silent and does not force it's word-leaders to step back when they opposed the law. I am not intersted so much in your personal interpretation of Islam. what counts is what Muslim community is doing (or not doin) in actual deeds. Deeds tell so much more than words. Sometime I wonder if you really have ever realized what you were into when becoming Muslim.

So tell us. Why do the speakers of Muslim mcommunities (in Germany as well, btw) oppose a law banning enforced marriages that staistically are overwhelmingly represneted in families from Muslim courtries, and why does the overwhelming majority of Muslims do not do anything about calling these leaders back and replace them, if it is true what you say and this is no Islamic issue? You onow as well as I do that there are many passages in the Koran that excuse and actively encourage that women should be treated as subordinates that must obey to males, must be beaten and controlled. If you try to reject that, I'll just need to stand up, get some papers, and simply copy over those verses and context that proove you wrong. It's only work, but no object of doubt.

By Islam's sick view of women it does implicitly excuse forced marriages very much.

And what does any of this have to do with the article that you linked to? Seems to me like just another opportunity for you to arrogantly tell me that I am blind. Another opportunity to pontificate and tell me that you are all knowing and I'm some person led astray, unable to think for myself. You have called me blind, labelled me as under a spell as an explanation to why I am Muslim, day in day out you heap sh_t on my faith with thread after thread ad-nauseum. I now know why so many Americans here got sick of your USA, Bush bashing, and I told you so threads. A little less potificating from you wouldn't go astray you know. I'm not even going to bother entertaining your little diversion from the original discussion of this thread. Just do me a bloody damned favour and stop questioning my personel decisions that don't concern you and that quite frankly are none of your bloody business.