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Originally Posted by mapuc
Islamist(I know they are a not political, but they have a ideology)
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Oh, they are, Islam is a power-political ideology before anything else, it is political claim in religious disguise. The followers that Muhammad sent to the nomadic tribes to demand and collect taxes/protection money/whatever you call it, were the same men who on these opportunities preached Muhammad'S will and demands. Its as if her ein the West the chuch priests and the state'S tax officials would be the same people. You cannot separate the two from each other. Thats why Western societies with their claimed and wanted (but often not practiced to all consequences) secularism and separation between religion and politics cannot really get a hold of it. Islam pushes for social and political changes in its favour, becasue it does not accept multi-culturalism, only monoculkturalism - itself, that is, and so it demands the freedom of religious practicing guaranteed in western constitutions to prevent any resistence to said changes. Our own constitutions are being turned against us here!

In Islam, politics, social control of all levels of society down to the single individual, and religion, all are monolithically united. The relgion serves as a method to ensure the self-conjtorllign and self-censoign of the individual on behalf of the state/polticla lesadership/those in power.
It wa snot much different in Europe during the dark Age. Its just that our ancestory moved beyond that, after many fights and sacrifices. Thew Islamci world got stuck in it, until today. They had no Glad Tidings, you know, its as if they got stuck with nothing but the Old Testament and its archaic idea of a God that Jesus tried to overcome. Christian religion - or better: Judaism - had that revolution. Islam not.