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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
Reports that we're losing the war… again? Those have been coming out every three months since the war began three years ago.
If I recall, I made my point a while back (six months ~ a year ago) that the US has done all it can do there, time to pull out. We enforced a UN resolution, made sure there were no WMDs, deposed the dictator, and helped the natives set up a democratic government. Plus we killed a lot of terrorists. No one will ever appreciate all we've done for them. The longer we stay there, the more it will look like we "lost" when we do pull out, just like Vietnam. Let the Iraqis have what they say they want, control of their destiny. They have a better shot now than they did when they were under the boot of the dictator. Time to look toward Iran.
Iraq, you're on your own. Best of luck to ya!
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Have these reports been coming from the officers in the field? I see it diffrent. so far, the pentagon was spreading optimism. And bush did. And Rumsfeld as well. and his generals, too. Different suggestions so far were coming from people that were not within this apparatus, and from opposing politicians. that now those who should know it best also are reported to admit strategical defeat is new, to my best knowledge. But maybe I have missed the reports on the military saying it had lost the war, that is absolutely possible, of course. I do not scan all world medias day in, day out.However, the question now is what will be done? Waiting after the lections, when another Republican government could pull out and have four years time left to correct the negative prestige coming from that, or when a Democratic government is a thankful target to be held responsible then for having lost the war by pulling out too early? Field commanders have given it up, and they probbaly know ebtter than anyone else what they are talkiong about. so what consequences will be drawn from this? Business as usual?