[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by scandium

I thought it was your government that was attempting to "redefine society" by proposing to amend the constitution?

............. It's actually sad that we have to make amendments to protect society's institutions from selfish adults that want the world defined their way. Marriage has been defined for centuries upon centuries as between a man and woman. Guess what...nutjob activists ain't going to change that. I actually agree with gay civil unions as the compromise. Same benefits without the redefining aspects.

Originally Posted by Umfuld

I know. Those very same people who got women the right to vote. And thought it was wrong to own other people as slaves. The b*st*rds.

They ain't the same people. But what an odd argument. BTW did you know gay people do have the same rights of marriage as I do? But just like me....they can't marry someone of the same sex. Just like me, they can get married if they do it with someone from the opposite sex. And no, they have no right to redefine the concept of marriage to their own liking.

Because marriage and raising a child have nothing to do with one another

I know you don't like definitions and real meanings of words. But according to the marriage definition, it is an institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependance for the purposes of founding and maintaining a family. I know the definition doesn't meet your liking, but it is what it is. No amount of whining is going to change it.

It was a meaningless post. As the law being discussed seeks to change this. The dictionary is just stating what the unjust law says.

Umfeld, I understand you may be a young college guy that is trying to be ideal about the world around you. Of course you know everything, and everyone else who has a different viewpoint is wrong and perhaps bigoted in your own world. I was there at one time myself. I grew up and so will you. I'm now in my mid-thirties, out of college, and kind of value societal norms as a stabilizing factor. And I'm sorry, but gay marriage is not the same as women's suffrage or slavery.