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Originally Posted by Hawk66
I agree mostly to what you said, Skybird, but we should not make the mistake to think that European people are smarter than the people of the other side of the Atlantic.
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I did not say nor imply that. I remembered the math behind the eleciton outcome, how many, or how loittle people in the Us voted for and still support Trump. Its not as if a slight majority of American population, is behind him, has voted for him. Substarct those who were not eligiuble to vote, substratc those who did not care to vote, and of those voters who went voting: substract those who did not vote Trump. And of those you are left with you now substaratc those who meanwhile learned to regret their deciison and who have cancewlled their support: you are left with a rough estimation of around one in fiv,e probaly even less.
Trump in no way speaks for a majority of all the American people. Not even close to.
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See the situation in our own country, see that AFD (which has also strong ties to the Kremlin) is now leading the polls in eastern Germany. See how Putins propaganda has succeeded (I know that it is not the only reason) that the Social democratic party manages preventing to raise the defense budget significantly and the conservatives simply do not want to endanger the coalition since there is no support by the people for this (defense)...
...what is especially worrying to me is that a lot of young people buy parts of the Putin's propaganda, since they have no link to the cold war and its roots and the continuous struggle between freedom and dictatorship. They think it (being free) is free lunch.
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Its discouraging to see people always falling fore the sam elies and sorts of propaganda, may it be the nationalist "right", or the social-justrice-progressive "left". Its for no reason I do support neither our poltical system as it is, or any political party of professional politicians. Its all a big disease. And it infects everything.
Putin, he is neitehr left or reight, he is pragmnatically doing what serves his ambiitons and power interests. Thats why it is no contrsadiction if Russia supports extreme left or extreme right camps. Its pure opportunism, like a musician playing on his flute.
when I think of it, from the left to the right, from the progressives to the nationaolistrs, form the special interest lobbies to the careeer polticians, all these wiorld improvers and holy messiahs of jstice and poeace and equality, they all have one thing in common: they all want to be in command over people, want the power to rule what people cna and cannot do, can and cannot think, say, feel. They all want to be great commanders on behalf of heir own view of things, they all are hidden dictators, and they all agree to totalitarianism if only it is pratrccies in support of their views, becasue then it is a good and just thing, and if their oppoinents promote it, then it is bad and evil.
The older I get, the more tired and sick I get of this rotten stinking smelly game. And people continue to fall for it again and agaiun and again and again and again, generaitomn for generation for generation, century for century. Man does not learn. Never. Tell him sweet lies, and he starts grinning like an imbecile and says "Jawohl mein Führer" - no matter who the liar is. I must conclude: people want to be lied to to and want to get betrayed and abused and subjugated. Its hard to work for your own independence and freedom, its so much easier to accepot slavery and dog-ship while putting your money on that your perosnal glory will increase by celebrating the glorious shine of the liar putting himself above you. Freedom is risk, is responsibilty for oneself, is effort - a golden cage luring you inside with false promises is so much easier to accept.
Had this this morning.
https://www.ortneronline.at/die-aufe...r-ueblen-idee/
English:
https://translate.google.de/translat...ueblen-idee%2F
Damn, that is so true.