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Catfish · 03-01-19, 08:40 AM

^ Still hysterical with the conspiracy idea? It's irrational and irresponsible of Brexiters to mislead voters into thinking that the EU controls the UK when it is written in the treaties that the EU must respect its members. And it does. Yes. indeed.
Things like border control have been managed differently already by the UK, but also the latter opted out from border checks . Why do you always forget that?

You could easily have taken back control of our borders already under
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ...77:0123:en:PDF
but you chose not to.
" ... which allows EU member states to repatriate EU nationals after three months if they have not found a job or do not have the means to support themselves. In this month’s debate on the House of Lords EU subcommittee report on EU migration, I challenged the government on why we were not availing ourselves of this directive – and I got no response."

Generally,
"A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.’"
The key words here are ‘decides’ and ‘intention’. Despite the decision in the non-binding referendum, it did not mean the UK would Brexit that day as many were led to believe.

Instead there have been two years, and the UK trade ministry has not made one post-brexit deal with all the EU nations it now trades with (27), and not one deal with the other 67 nations the UK up to now traded with automatically because of being a EU member. And of course, this is all the EU's fault. pffft.

@Jim
What i meant is that Europe and the UK loses. The only winners will be Russia and China, and maybe the US.

03-01-19, 08:40 AM	#9296
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,819 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Still hysterical with the conspiracy idea? It's irrational and irresponsible of Brexiters to mislead voters into thinking that the EU controls the UK when it is written in the treaties that the EU must respect its members. And it does. Yes. indeed. Things like border control have been managed differently already by the UK, but also the latter opted out from border checks . Why do you always forget that? You could easily have taken back control of our borders already under https://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ...77:0123:en:PDF but you chose not to. " ... which allows EU member states to repatriate EU nationals after three months if they have not found a job or do not have the means to support themselves. In this month’s debate on the House of Lords EU subcommittee report on EU migration, I challenged the government on why we were not availing ourselves of this directive – and I got no response." Generally, "A Member State which *decides* to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its *intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.’" The key words here are ‘decides’ and ‘intention’. Despite the decision in the non-binding referendum, it did not mean the UK would Brexit that day as many were led to believe. Instead there have been two years, and the UK trade ministry has not made one post-brexit deal with all the EU nations it now trades with (27), and not one deal with the other 67 nations the UK up to now traded with automatically because of being a EU member. And of course, this is all the EU's fault. pffft. @Jim What i meant is that Europe and the UK loses. The only winners will be Russia and China, and maybe the US. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 03-01-19 at 10:46 AM.