[Skybird]

It seems we agree, Mike, that independence is about being able and economically strong enough to be economically/financially strong (=autark) indeed. I described a general principle, you added the individual background of the Welsh, Irish and Scottish cases.


I'm fine with whatever they decide, voluntarily and without being pressed from outside. I just insist on that whatever it is - they must be able to afford it by their own means. Same I tell the Basques. The Catalonians, The Walonians. Or, fictionally, if they would have a referendum, the Bavarians in Germany. Everybody is free to deny being ruled by foreign people. But nobody has the right to demand that others have to pay for his living. Everybody has to prepare his living so that he can bear his own weight. Desires for more are just motivations for doing the work on the way form here to there all by oneself. They do not give you claim over others who should give you a free ride.


So much for the theory. Reality already is a labyrinthic mess. And thats why the EU is a mess as well. Its the architect of this labyrinth.